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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by 00timh View Post
    A high majority of conservatives have no problem with the government assisting children in need. True need that is. What medicaid and welfare has become is not one in the same. A young couple in their early mid 20's having a child on med/low income and the child has special health needs from injury or a major illness/ medical condition, yeah, we are for assistance for this stuff.

    Socially this is not an issue for me but of a basic right for private business or institutions to not have to be told by the government what to do. The goverment does not have the right to do this. Obamacare tramples all over the constitution and it is losing numerous court battles. The law ordering contraception coverage is a part of that, and why the Obama administration thinks it is being clever to "make a compromise" on this but in reality they know it is a legal issue and are trying to do an end around on this.
    Not sure what you are talking about here. I was specifically talking about the government providing contraceptives free of charge or at very reduced cost to those who need it. That has zero to do with Obamacare or the debate about forcing companies to cover their people for that.

    Santorum made a comment pertaining to the government not paying for contraceptives. I was commenting on specifically on how the reality is that if the government does not provide reduced cost or free contraceptives, then lower income women will be having more children and the government will be forced to spend more money on helping with the finances to take care of those children.
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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Agree? Disagree?
    There is no guarantee in politics!

    Edit: It definately gives him more of a cushion though
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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I think Santorum is more likely to beat Obama than Romney is. Obama biggest weakness is Obamacare, and Romney has no rational argument against it. Plus, the idea that Romney is a stronger general election candidate than Santorum is nonsense. No one is excited over the prospects of a Romney presidency. No one.

    The only ones eager to see Romney as the nominee is Obama and Obama fans who see Romney as everything they want to run against. Santorum will give Obama fits. Although I give Obama the edge, anyone who thinks the race is over if Santorum wins will be in for a big disappointment.
    In a way, the question is which one will more cost Republicans more independent votes? The marshmellow Romney or the Bible-beater Santorum? I think the Bible-beater. Once he explained his view that birth control even for married people is wrong because he wants unplanned pregnancies with abortion blocked so there will be more people later to pay for Social Security I think he went off the mainstream map into Zippy Pinheadville.

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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    This. Libs/Dems want Santorum to win nomination.

    If he does, who might he pick as his VP? That could be fun too. Bachmann?
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    That'd be a great ticket. They can run against reality.

    Perhaps they can promise to make Sarah Palin the Secy of State because of her special experience with Russia.


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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    I find it unlikely the GOP is naive enough (Collectively), to allow him to represent them. The GOP is well aware it has trouble connecting with half the country...I would hope they avoid losing another 20% or so,

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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    I never under estimate the ignorance of American society so I think Santorum absolutely has a chance.
    "Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they’ll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they’ll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it’s the sand of the coliseum. He’ll bring them death – and they will love him for it.” - Senator Gracchus (Gladiator)

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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    If Santorum gets the GOP presidential nomination, he will lose. Why? On the very religious grounds he attempts to walk on.

    The Constitutions gives all of us the right to practice whatever religion we so choose. It also prohibits the federal government from imposing a religion upon the citizenry. While I applaud Santorum's adherence to family values, I dare say his religious values don't speak for every American. Thus, he'll only carry the hardline Conservative/Catholic vote and nothing more.

    I'm as much a family values man as any other husband and father, but I don't share Santorum's religious views. This alone will be Santorum's undoing because not everyone sees "religious" and "family values" the same way. As I have witnessed personally and directly from this forum alone, not everyone believes they should run their household as I do despite the fact that I firmly believe that my way leads to positive results. The difference is I try very hard not to impose my way on anyone else.

    I just think Santorum's barking up the wrong tree here. You're not going to inspire the nation by "preaching" to them because not everyone believes in raising a family "the Catholic way" anymore than they believe bringing up baby as a Christian, a Morman, a Jehovah Witness, a Muslim or even Amish is the "right" way or the "best' way. We're all different. That's what makes this nation so great! But speaking from one "religious-based family values" edict won't win most people over.
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 02-16-12 at 03:56 PM.

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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Perhaps guarantee was a bit too strong. But from the posts, it does seem the vast majority think it gives Obama a bigger chance at reelection.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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