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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Anti-SSM, anti-abortion rights, anti-contraceptions, he would use the government to enforce his social views.

    And Obama and radical should not be used in the same sentence, he has been a pragmatist barely left of center politician, at least as POTUS.
    I know liberals and Democrats characterize some of his views as you have listed here bat**** crazy but I think you would be suprised how ambivalent a lot of people are about those issues. To some he can be as Anti-SSM, contraceptive or abortion as he wants because it really is not going to change anything on those issues. Those aren't deal breakers for a lot of people who are personally not as extreme as he. The country as a whole and Congress in particular won't go along with much if any rollbacks on those kinds of rights.
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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

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    Anti-SSM, anti-abortion rights, anti-contraceptions, he would use the government to enforce his social views.
    Where do you get this imformation about contraception? If Obama get elected again, you will pay.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    I think that something big and bad will happen in the Middle East, that it will hurt Obama's chances a lot. So no, I see it helping Santorum a big deal, because of his knowledge about the Middle East.
    Conservative and knowledge do not go "hand in hand"..Or should I say "sensitivity", another conservative weakness...
    Too bad for the "GOP" that their best candidate , Mr Huntsman, had so little support...We does possess knowledge and is a Republican.

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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    Where do you get this imformation about contraception? If Obama get elected again, you will pay.

    Candidates often say things when polling in the single digits that come back to haunt them when they
    start leading
    the polls. Last October, Rick Santorum
    gave an interview
    with an Evangelical blog called Caffeinated Thoughts, in which he said contraception is “not okay,” and that this would be a public policy issue he would tackle as President. In particular, he said he would “get rid of any idea that you have to have abortion coverage or contraceptive coverage” as a government policy. Start watching the following video at 17:55.

    Read more: Rick Santorum Wants to Fight ‘The Dangers Of Contraception’ | Swampland | TIME.com

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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

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    And I think he's stupid enough to do that.
    His handlers will advise him to be careful, to attack President Obama on his weaknesses...
    But, I'd place Rick on a Barry G. level and, IMO, Obama is far better than Johnson.

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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Candidates often say things when polling in the single digits that come back to haunt them when they
    start leading
    the polls. Last October, Rick Santorum
    gave an interview
    with an Evangelical blog called Caffeinated Thoughts, in which he said contraception is “not okay,” and that this would be a public policy issue he would tackle as President. In particular, he said he would “get rid of any idea that you have to have abortion coverage or contraceptive coverage” as a government policy. Start watching the following video at 17:55.

    Read more: Rick Santorum Wants to Fight ‘The Dangers Of Contraception’ | Swampland | TIME.com
    He's talking about govt policy's that would pay for contraceptives federally. Try again.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    His handlers will advise him to be careful, to attack President Obama on his weaknesses...
    But, I'd place Rick on a Barry G. level and, IMO, Obama is far better than Johnson.
    The reason why Goldwalter lost is because conservatism was new to the american people.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    The reason why Goldwalter lost is because conservatism was new to the american people.
    So no conservatives were elected before Goldwater ran? I hardly think your statement is true.

    BG lost for many reasons but the "new conservatism' is hardly one of them.
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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So no conservatives were elected before Goldwater ran? I hardly think your statement is true.

    BG lost for many reasons but the "new conservatism' is hardly one of them.
    The idea of small government wasn't mentioned since the 1920s when Cooledge was president.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Re: Santorum Nomination Guarantees an Obama Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    The idea of small government wasn't mentioned since the 1920s when Cooledge was president.
    The "small government" meme is not a new one. It did fade during the Depression and WW2 - for good reason. But it was not something just invented in recent years. The people who believed in it did not all die or go away without replacement of others who felt the same way. Goldwater lost simply because over 60% of the nation simply disagreed with him and his ideas.
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