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Do you support the end of the syringe-exchange program?

Do you support the end of the syringe-exchange program?

  • Yes

    Votes: 15 40.5%

  • No

    Votes: 20 54.1%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 5.4%
  • Total voters
    37
Aunt Spiker said:
Drug addiction is a personal choice that people make - you can't tell me it's not. They know it's unhealthy. They know it's traumatizing. They know it's immoral, they know that by using theyr'e risking their freedom, health and the livihood of family (etc) . . . and so on: And if someone wants to choose being an addict, choose to continue it, and choose to commit other crimes - the best place for them IS in the prison system.
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Just like the prison system was the best place for gays because they made the choice to be gay? Or for blacks because they made the choice to be involved with someone who is white?

Yes, being an addict is a choice. But it's a choice people should be allowed to made without going to prison in and of itself.

Especially when our legal system discriminates on which recreational drugs it chooses to criminalize. After all, why should we imprison morphine addicts just for being morphine addicts but we don't imprison alcoholics just for being alcoholics?
 
samsmart said:
Rehab isn't the only sentence for drug use or drug possession.
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Then bring it up in a rebuttle to someone that is strictly advocating that.
 
iguanaman said:
Good thinking. Why not wait till they get HIV so we can support their treatment with our tax dollars.
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We shouldn't be treating thos who get HIV due to their own reckless behavior either.


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While we are at it let's outlaw abortion
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I support outlawing abortion as a means of birth control.Not sure how banning tax payer funded dollars that aid those that engage in reckless behavior is the same as banning abortion.According to the pro-abortion crowd no tax payer dollars go to pay for abortions.


and contraception so they all can have lots of kids for us to support too
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what does banning contraceptives have to do with banning tax payer dollars from aiding junkies?

There is just too much money laying around
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There is a **** load of things the government has no business funding with tax payer dollars and needle exchanges is one of those.
 
I need to learn to read fully before voting. I do NOT support the end to the program. I do support the program. So I voted wrong:(
 
1Perry said:
I do not think the government was created to protect all people from their stupidity.
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Personally, I say let their stupidity reap the results of itself.
That being said, I don't support the criminalization of using, but I also don't support coddling them in their self-destructive lifestyle.
 
Unless someone can propose a more cost-effective program for reducing the spread of blood-borne pathogens, I have to continue supporting the needle exchanges. I hate subsidizing immoral activity, but preventing the spread of disease must take priority.
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
Unless someone can propose a more cost-effective program for reducing the spread of blood-borne pathogens, I have to continue supporting the needle exchanges. I hate subsidizing immoral activity, but preventing the spread of disease must take priority.
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Shouldn't someone such as yourself look at this as Nature's little way of eliminating the stupid?
 
jamesrage said:
Shouldn't someone such as yourself look at this as Nature's little way of eliminating the stupid?
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I'd be happy to if it weren't for the fact that junkies have all sorts of nasty other ways of infecting acceptable people.
 
jamesrage said:
Shouldn't someone such as yourself look at this as Nature's little way of eliminating the stupid?
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If you think allowing HIV infection to run rampage in American society is merely a threat to those individuals who are infected, then you are wrong and your point of view overlooks the very simple fact that a lack of government controls on containing HIV infection among drug users poses a direct threat to you and your society and your family, and not just your money by wasting it.
 
kaya'08 said:
If you think allowing HIV infection to run rampage in American society is merely a threat to those individuals who are infected, then you are wrong and your point of view overlooks the very simple fact that a lack of government controls on containing HIV infection among drug users poses a direct threat to you and your society and your family, and not just your money by wasting it.
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We've done that for decades now. What do you suggest we do about that?
 
MKULTRABOY said:
And when hokeyville stops their syringe program and and 15,000 people end up with aids... I mean who's going to pay for that ****?
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The people of, course, they pay for everything.
And to be really mean-spirited, this will reduce the surplus population...
But, to be serious, I think the people are smarter than this...the figure is closer to say 1% of "Hokeyville", or 1.5 people....
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
I'd be happy to if it weren't for the fact that junkies have all sorts of nasty other ways of infecting acceptable people.
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Do you hang out with or "date" ?junkies?
 
People don't 'seem' to get it. The vast majority of drugs that are currently illegal were illegalised in order to deport mexicans or incarcerate recently freed slaves in this century and in the last. Before then society had free usage of anything anyone could ever want and last I checked were not in a post apocalyptic state.

Another thing people don't seem to get is that drug usage will occur despite its legal status and that the inavailability of clean needles is a direct burden on society. Peoples haughty 21st century family values morality aside, were going to save more money by giving people needles to do whateverthe****isit that they do rather than chastise them and have many more suffer in numbers many factor larger.

Nobody cares if you don't like it because its iwwegal and drugs r bad mmkay.
As for catching addicts at the needle exchange or drug ween-off clinic prepare for a human rights ****storm and a hefty jail bill for locking them all up.
 
MKULTRABOY said:
People don't 'seem' to get it. The vast majority of drugs that are currently illegal were illegalised in order to deport mexicans or incarcerate recently freed slaves in this century and in the last. Before then society had free usage of anything anyone could ever want and last I checked were not in a post apocalyptic state.

Another thing people don't seem to get is that drug usage will occur despite its legal status and that the inavailability of clean needles is a direct burden on society. Peoples haughty 21st century family values morality aside, were going to save more money by giving people needles to do whateverthe****isit that they do rather than chastise them and have many more suffer in numbers many factor larger.

Nobody cares if you don't like it because its iwwegal and drugs r bad mmkay.
As for catching addicts at the needle exchange or drug ween-off clinic prepare for a human rights ****storm and a hefty jail bill for locking them all up.
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Clean needles are available. Where they aren't, make it so they are.
 
kaya'08 said:
If you think allowing HIV infection to run rampage in American society is merely a threat to those individuals who are infected, then you are wrong .
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It's only a threat to those who engage in activities which facilitate the spread of HIV.
 
lizzie said:
It's only a threat to those who engage in activities which facilitate the spread of HIV.
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So if the HIV cook gets his blood on your burger that's good for you?

No one is an island and when it comes to germs you're even less of an island than you might think.
 
MoSurveyor said:
So if the HIV cook gets his blood on your burger that's good for you?

No one is an island and when it comes to germs you're even less of an island than you might think.
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Yes, I am very familiar with the world of microbes and their transmission routes. HIV isn't as easy to acquire as some people believe.

If the burger chef is getting his blood on my burger, then he needs another inservice in food prep for the public.
 
MoSurveyor said:
So if the HIV cook gets his blood on your burger that's good for you?

No one is an island and when it comes to germs you're even less of an island than you might think.
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Using dirty needles is only one of the methods someone can contract diseases.Just because someone has HIV doesn't mean they got it through doing intravenous drugs, having sex with someone who uses intravenous drugs or having sex with someone who has had sex with someone who uses intravenous drugs and so on.
 
jamesrage said:
Using dirty needles is only one of the methods someone can contract diseases.Just because someone has HIV doesn't mean they got it through doing intravenous drugs, having sex with someone who uses intravenous drugs or having sex with someone who has had sex with someone who uses intravenous drugs and so on.
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Yep - a lot of places hand out condoms, too.
 
MKULTRABOY said:
And when hokeyville stops their syringe program and and 15,000 people end up with aids... I mean who's going to pay for that ****?
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The idiots who caused the problem on their own. We shouldn't pay for stupidity.
 
Hare said:
Not without exception, but the legalization of drugs would most likely lead to easier acess to cleaner, safer paraphernalia such as needles.
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You'd still have people who can't afford to pay for drug paraphernalia using dirty needles. It won't improve things at all and it won't solve the problem.
 
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