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Thread: Is assasination acceptable?

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    I fail to see how your listing that evangelicals respect your right to vote makes them any less radical than a talibani with a TV remote rather than an AK.
    It's a popular apocalyptic mutation of Christianity that uses it's power to violate the seperation of powers of church and state in the US
    not to mention funnel illegal funds into israeli settlements in order to encourage a global apocalypse so they can go to heaven and all the Jews can be slain and us secularists can live in Fallout World... and also encourage that one speak tongues, pretend that demons and angels occupy their inner minds, perform self taught rituals with the bible to expel demons. Considering their a quarter of the voting population of the US... You could say I'm about 25% as concerned about the US starting the apocalypse as I am the government of Iran...

    so yeah... there's a little problem there...
    I have seen some of the behavior you're concerned with. I have had it affect me directly, though the end result turned out positive for me. Though I don't think they will be successful. And, most of the still recognize my right to vote.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    does syria have nukes ??

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    It is acceptable, the problem is whether it is possible to attempt one
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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    If this situation in Syria, could be dealt with by one of our special forces operations removing certain facets of the problem with deadly force, would you find the tradeoff a wise venture. In other words, if we could kill Assad to stop the ongoing slaughter of thousands, would you go along with it?
    That invites a forign power to assasinate our president and it is an act of war.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    No we are not the ****ing world police...


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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    I've read from credible sources that Anwar Sadat had a bad experience with assassinations and would be opposed to them if he were still around. JFK probably didn't like assassinations either. I'm just guessing.










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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    I have nothing against targeted assassinations, because I'm a pragmatist. Bin Laden's assassination was a-okay with me, and if we can assassinate other Al Qaeda-Taliban leaders anywhere in the world, I'm down with it.

    Thing is, one cannot assassinate a government, and the head of state does not a government make.

    Sure, someone could take out Assad, but the next-in-command will take his place and the military will be even more brutal with their own version of "Dear Leader" dead. The only thing that makes sense in Syria is for many nations to unite and agree upon a military/humanitarian plan to forceably stop the slaughter. The UN is the perfect place to do that. Unfortunately, Syria has two very good friends in the UN... Russia and China. Syria also has some powerful and friendly neighbors... Iran, and quite possibly Iraq, corrupt cesspool that it still is.

    There are simply some things in this world that the USA cannot and should not unilaterally "fix". The Libya thing was iffy for me, but acceptable because France, UK and Spain were leading the charge under NATO's banner, and we provided support. Unless our allies in Europe and the ME are willing to create a coalition with the goal of stopping Assad's carnage and implementing forced regime change on an international level, we should stay the hell out of it and send humanitarian supplies to areas where it's most needed by Syrian victims.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by 00timh View Post
    Yeah, Obama authorized the operation for the assasinasation of UBL. Haven't heard one complaint against Obama ordering that.....
    Right. Because it was appropriate.
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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by 00timh View Post
    Yeah, Obama authorized the operation for the assasinasation of UBL. Haven't heard one complaint against Obama ordering that.....
    Or this......

    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has taken the extraordinary step of authorizing the targeted killing of an American citizen, the radical Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who is believed to have shifted from encouraging attacks on the United States to directly participating in them, intelligence and counterterrorism officials said Tuesday.

    Mr. Awlaki, who was born in New Mexico and spent years in the United States as an imam, is in hiding in Yemen. He has been the focus of intense scrutiny since he was linked to Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist accused of killing 13 people at Fort Hood, Tex., in November, and then to Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian man charged with trying to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner on Dec. 25.

    American counterterrorism officials say Mr. Awlaki is an operative of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the affiliate of the terror network in Yemen and Saudi Arabia. They say they believe that he has become a recruiter for the terrorist network, feeding prospects into plots aimed at the United States and at Americans abroad, the officials said.

    It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for an American to be approved for targeted killing, officials said. A former senior legal official in the administration of George W. Bush said he did not know of any American who was approved for targeted killing under the former president.

    But the director of national intelligence, Dennis C. Blair, told a House hearing in February that such a step was possible. “We take direct actions against terrorists in the intelligence community,” he said. “If we think that direct action will involve killing an American, we get specific permission to do that.” He did not name Mr. Awlaki as a target.
    U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric - NYTimes.com
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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    I suppose I am torn on this issue.
    On one hand I am terribly disturbed by the slaughter taking place in Syria...and feel someone should stop it.
    On the other hand, I do not think it is OUR job to do so with any further violence.
    On a third hand, I admit to some level of disdain for the entire culture in the region...to the point that I would just assume we ignored them, and they us.

    I guess I feel bad for them, but believe they will keep killing each other for another couple hundred years no matter what we do...It's unlikely 4000 yrs. of brutality will stop simply because one man dies.

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