View Poll Results: Should we take out Assad?

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Thread: Is assasination acceptable?

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    How do you suppose we change.. say... evangelical americans?
    What Americans have are enough of to protect us are different religions. (Yes, there are many revisionist Evangelical people that claim essentially that we were established by Evangelicals.) So they don't need to be changed. Many even recognize my right to vote even though I'm not an Evangelical. So what problem are you trying to solve?

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    No. You can have a election w/o democracy. People have to participate, even the minorities. Peoples rights have to be documented and followed. That requires a culture that supports minority rights.
    election is the mask of this game...

    according to your democracy defitition ,how long has US been democrat? was it democrat in 50s? ,

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    election is the mask of this game...

    according to your democracy defitition ,how long has US been democrat? was it democrat in 50s? ,
    A perfect democracy? No. And, it's not now; but, its closer. And I'm sure you recall that many churches supported the imperfection that was the major reason it was not in the 50's.
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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Assassination is unproductive, since the replacement might be even less acceptable to you.
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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    If this situation in Syria, could be dealt with by one of our special forces operations removing certain facets of the problem with deadly force, would you find the tradeoff a wise venture. In other words, if we could kill Assad to stop the ongoing slaughter of thousands, would you go along with it?


    In principle, targeted assassinations against important enemy figures are absolutely necessary.

    But in the case of Assad the problem is whether his replacement government could be worse than the current regime.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    I have no moral objection to assassination, and very little practical objection, but the international laws in place prohibiting assassination of heads of state need to stay in place-- so that reputable states are afraid of the loss of face that would result.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    What Americans have are enough of to protect us are different religions. (Yes, there are many revisionist Evangelical people that claim essentially that we were established by Evangelicals.) So they don't need to be changed. Many even recognize my right to vote even though I'm not an Evangelical. So what problem are you trying to solve?
    I fail to see how your listing that evangelicals respect your right to vote makes them any less radical than a talibani with a TV remote rather than an AK.
    It's a popular apocalyptic mutation of Christianity that uses it's power to violate the seperation of powers of church and state in the US
    not to mention funnel illegal funds into israeli settlements in order to encourage a global apocalypse so they can go to heaven and all the Jews can be slain and us secularists can live in Fallout World... and also encourage that one speak tongues, pretend that demons and angels occupy their inner minds, perform self taught rituals with the bible to expel demons. Considering their a quarter of the voting population of the US... You could say I'm about 25% as concerned about the US starting the apocalypse as I am the government of Iran...

    so yeah... there's a little problem there...

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    In principle, targeted assassinations against important enemy figures are absolutely necessary.
    In total war perhaps... there hasn't been a particularly big one since the mid 20th C.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    In total war perhaps... there hasn't been a particularly big one since the mid 20th C.
    Mid 20th Century didn't have the sort of terrorism we have today. War is something fluid, it has to adapt to its times.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Assad is a dead man walking. How long is he going to continue to walk for? Well that depends doesn't it. How long is he going to be allowed to murder thousands of innocents? The token International outrage against these events by the Arab League and the so called leaders of Countries afar are pathetic.

    You know The Right to Protect (R2P) was supposedly set up to allow nation states to take unilateral action to protect civilians against disgusting maniacs like Assad. Syrian crimes can be classified as crimes against humanity especially because they are state policy, systematic and directed so why has R2P not been invoked by the international community nor has reasonable action been undertaken by the Security Council and the ICC?

    It's not rocket science. Politics and personal interest. Uphold basic human rights and protect the innocent.......when it suits.
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