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Thread: Is assasination acceptable?

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    It's really funny when the whole board knows I'm joking but you pretend I'm not!

    Wait... I guess that means you got trolled.
    With no intentions on my part.
    Teh. Your evidence for the "whole board" knowing this?
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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Teh. Your evidence for the "whole board" knowing this?
    I have no ill will against you Harshaw... but sometimes
    I think your inner dialogue is something like the Diane Rehm's show on NPR.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Please elaborate on this.
    They expect new leadership to be functionally like Assad's but representing their group. There is only a very small minority that wants and understands a Western democracy type with individual rights for all, regardless of religion etc.
    They have the expectation that to win they need someone from their subculture to win the leadership.
    An example is Afghanistan, or several African countries where there are competing tribes in one 'country'.

    This is a reply to what I posted earlier: ... getting rid of Assad doesn't solve the problem. There are many replacements waiting to assume his position in his criminal organization. The other problem is the culture in Syria as its not one that can support a rational leadership, they are getting the leadership their culture deserves and they will again.

    Now I have to add, there is no easy solution for Syria, the culture has to change. War doesn't solve culture problems. We have some recent examples.
    Last edited by OhIsee.Then; 02-09-12 at 01:51 PM. Reason: add earlier post

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    They expect new leadership to be functionally like Assad's but representing their group. There is only a very small minority that wants and understands a Western democracy type with individual rights for all, regardless of religion etc.
    They have the expectation that to win they need someone from their subculture to win the leadership.
    An example is Afghanistan, or several African countries where there are competing tribes in one 'country'.
    is there a real democracy in the world??

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    They expect new leadership to be functionally like Assad's but representing their group. There is only a very small minority that wants and understands a Western democracy type with individual rights for all, regardless of religion etc.
    They have the expectation that to win they need someone from their subculture to win the leadership.
    An example is Afghanistan, or several African countries where there are competing tribes in one 'country'.
    I actually don't know much about syria...

    The modern Syrian state was established after the First World War as a French mandate
    Syria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    But how does the issue originate with them in this case?

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Even though U.S. law states that assassination is not acceptable, our government has been involved in a lot of uncovered clandestined operations over the years to depose and capture democratically elected leaders. What we did to Saddam might not have been assassination, but a kangaroo court was not justice. They should have just been honest about their intentions and shot him in the field.

    Assassination is dirty politics. It's a tool we can use I suppose, but we better be prepared for the backlash. Our government talks a lot about terrorism and safety lately, but the things that increase terrorism and security breaches against us the most are torture, terrorism, assassination, and unprovoked war against other sovereign states.

    Our karma is catching up to us and because we have cried wolf so many times, no one is going to come to our aid when we need it most.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Assassinating one person is better than bombing a building and killing innocent bystanders.
    I agree with this in most cases. We can chop off the head of the lead chicken and leave the rest of the coup which is not a problem alone. It isn't always the answer, and we may have to have at it with the entire country in a lot of cases still, but in today's world, it is an increasing scenario than it used to be.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    is there a real democracy in the world??
    By real do you mean perfect? What I'm indicating is that a culture that recognizes that individuals have rights and has a document that supports that and attempts to have a leadership choice base on some kind of 'election' is a democracy that is sufficient. If the majority of Syrians understood this there would be a chance for getting rid of Assad or his ilk.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    By real do you mean perfect? What I'm indicating is that a culture that recognizes that individuals have rights and has a document that supports that and attempts to have a leadership choice base on some kind of 'election' is a democracy that is sufficient. If the majority of Syrians understood this there would be a chance for getting rid of Assad or his ilk.
    is the only criteria of democracy is election? if it were election ,no protestors would be coshed in no part of the world.....

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    What I'm indicating is that a culture that recognizes that individuals have rights and has a document that supports that and attempts to have a leadership choice base on some kind of 'election' is a democracy that is sufficient. If the majority of Syrians understood this...
    Weird... how do you suggest we make them understand?

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