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Thread: Is assasination acceptable?

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    We're not in the habit of declaring wars.
    We're not at war with Syria in any respect.
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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    If this situation in Syria, could be dealt with by one of our special forces operations removing certain facets of the problem with deadly force, would you find the tradeoff a wise venture. In other words, if we could kill Assad to stop the ongoing slaughter of thousands, would you go along with it?
    it would be a murder , no kind of murder is better than the others
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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Assassinating one person is better than bombing a building and killing innocent bystanders.
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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    We're not at war with Syria in any respect.
    Perhaps we're not...


    ....perhaps.....

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    I'm always in some minority or less position w/o my position even approximated in this poll. That is the problem with those in my profession. Well anyway, getting rid of Assad doesn't solve the problem. There are many replacements waiting to assume his position in his criminal organization. The other problem is the culture in Syria as its not one that can support a rational leadership, they are getting the leadership their culture deserves and they will again.

    Now I have to add, there is no easy solution for Syria, the culture has to change. War doesn't solve culture problems. We have some recent examples.
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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    My view on war is much like my view in regards to individual combat. If you take things off the board in regards to what you'll do to defend yourself, you're an idiot. If you expect that a real fight is going to be anything similar to a boxing or MMA match, you're an idiot. Sure, if America went to war with Britian then following the general "rules of war" makes sense to a point because there's a reasonable expectation that both sides will actually follow through fully (or mostly fully) with those rules (similar to the expectatoin of people following the rules in a boxing match or MMA match). However if you're talking about interactions with a country who you have no reasonable expectation that they're going to follow the rules then trying to go out of your way to handcuff yourself with rules while they do whatever is akin to trying to go into a fight on the street stating you're not going to draw a weapon, you're not going to hit below the belt, you're not going to bite, you're not going to knee their head if they're on the ground, etc. It's dumb.
    In a world where our military is hog-tied by Rules of Engagement, your expectations are unrealistic. Surely even where one's family is concerned there is such a thing as "measured response." I agree totally that when the chips are down, all's fair. But they aren't down with this little countries.
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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Perhaps we're not...


    ....perhaps.....
    Got it.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    The other problem is the culture in Syria as its not one that can support a rational leadership, they are getting the leadership their culture deserves and they will again.
    Please elaborate on this.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Got it.

    It's really funny when the whole board knows I'm joking but you pretend I'm not!

    Wait... I guess that means you got trolled.
    With no intentions on my part.

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    Re: Is assasination acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    In a world where our military is hog-tied by Rules of Engagement, your expectations are unrealistic.
    Oh, I understand they're unrealistic. I dislike our "Rules of Engagement" as well. This was a question whether I think its acceptable. Absolutely, I do (in a general sense. As I said, not studied up enough on Syria to know if it'd be practical or the best solution). Do I think its a practical and realistic expectation to believe it'll happen? Yes and no. To be quite truthful, I believe it DOES happen to certain degrees, but to have it to a full fledged, uncuffed degree that is psuedo-institutionally okay in a wink-wink-nudge-nudge we don't do it but do it sort of way? Yes, I understand that's unrealistic and not going to happen. Doesn't change the fact that I would find it acceptable if it was.

    And yes, I absolutely agree with the notion of measured response. I'm not suggesting you go from 0 to Assination (or Nuke) in 3.5 seconds. What I'm suggesting is taking it off the table wholesale as an option however is not good strategy imho. I believe it has worth while use, but at the same time I think the political ramifications and issues with it make it something that would relegate it to an option used rarely and in rather specific scenarios. Suggesting I find its use acceptable in general and suggesting that it should be basically a basic practice agains any threat is two different things.

    I'm not going to pull out a gun or even throw a kick, or knee to the groin if I don't need to, in a bar fight with some idiot whose a bit too drunk and I'm by myself or with some friends. However in a different circumstance I may very well do that. Just because I don't take those options off the table doesn't mean I use the mevery time. Similarly, just because I wouldn't take assassination off the table completely doesn't mean I would use it in the national defense equivilent of a drunken bar brawl.

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