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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    All OWG supporters, has that made a difference in the world?
    I'm not an OWG supporter but, yes, it has.
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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I'm not an OWG supporter but, yes, it has.
    Well, we all make a difference in the world anyway. I mean, has the UN achieved it's goals?

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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Well, we all make a difference in the world anyway. I mean, has the UN achieved it's goals?
    http://www.un.org/en/aboutun/index.shtml
    The United Nations is an international organization founded in 1945 after the Second World War by 51 countries committed to maintaining international peace and security, developing friendly relations among nations and promoting social progress, better living standards and human rights.
    Since these appear to be an on-going processes, instead of time-defined goals, I'm not sure you can pin that down to "success" or "failure". Certainly some advances have been made in all three goals outlined here.
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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    Obviously a huge hypothetical as we are not ready for a world government yet, but in the future if all nations have become democratic in nature would you support the United Nations of Earth so to speak? Could each nation work as a state and have different nations rights like we have state rights? The only problem is there would be no one to trade with so ultimately we would have to work to keep the nation alive trading among each other. Honestly I don't even know if capitalism would work for a world government since there would be no competition. There's a ton of things to considerand I personally think because of human nature a world government in even 200 years isn't possible. But as a hypothetical would you support such a idea?
    I believe eventually this planet will evolve to a one world goverment one way or another. I also don't think capitalism would work to keep it stable.

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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by x0Maximilian0x View Post
    I believe eventually this planet will evolve to a one world goverment one way or another. I also don't think capitalism would work to keep it stable.
    Why is a one world government considered an inevitability? Why must humans be governed by one entity?

    A lot of people parrot this prediction of our future but what basis does it have in reality? Is a one world government even possible of being good for humanity?

    And what does Capitalism have to do with it? Who is your prophet?

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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Why is a one world government considered an inevitability? Why must humans be governed by one entity?

    A lot of people parrot this prediction of our future but what basis does it have in reality? Is a one world government even possible of being good for humanity?

    And what does Capitalism have to do with it? Who is your prophet?
    It is a common socialistic thought. One of the reasons socialism doesn't work, and the most obvious one. Is that people with a potential of a much better life outside the socialist state, will leave. A solution to that is to force all countries to be socialist. Hence, there is no where to leave.

    Also, many socialist think that all problems in the world would be gone if we shared our resources, which it certainly won't. It will in fact, cause many other problems. However, rich countries are not willing to subsidize poor countries. A one world government, can force rich countries who won't comply.

    Some people here say that we should limit the power of a world government, but that is impossible. It can give itself more power, and threaten the countries who won't comply. A one world government is not necessary. Treaties can be used when we need to pool our resources. The only purpose of a one world government is to be able to use force, which will cause conflict. Secondly, isn't diversity good. Why can't people in a region, decide themselves what kind of government they want to have. Why does everything have to be collectivized?

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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    It is a common socialistic thought. One of the reasons socialism doesn't work, and the most obvious one. Is that people with a potential of a much better life outside the socialist state, will leave. A solution to that is to force all countries to be socialist. Hence, there is no where to leave.

    Also, many socialist think that all problems in the world would be gone if we shared our resources, which it certainly won't. It will in fact, cause many other problems. However, rich countries are not willing to subsidize poor countries. A one world government, can force rich countries who won't comply.

    Some people here say that we should limit the power of a world government, but that is impossible. It can give itself more power, and threaten the countries who won't comply. A one world government is not necessary. Treaties can be used when we need to pool our resources. The only purpose of a one world government is to be able to use force, which will cause conflict. Secondly, isn't diversity good. Why can't people in a region, decide themselves what kind of government they want to have. Why does everything have to be collectivized?

    Collectivism is Socialism. It is a group that depends on a majority telling them what to do. people who live in communes are easily manipulated. Socialism recruits members much like cults do. E.I. they trick people into joining and coerce them into staying. They play on psychological chords like morality and revenge. If one reads the founding document of all modern Socialism the Communist Manifesto one can easily spot the cult like structure of the document. Marx raves like a mad man that only a true believer would put any worth to. It is also written in such a way that makes it hard for the lower educated to understand. And is easily taken out of context as has been done ever since it was first published. But the main point of the Communist Manifesto is that Communism cannot work without a one world government and no other government being ever allowed. Communism needs total control of every aspect of human life in order it to work as designed. And things like Capitalism and property rights threaten that control, so they are villainized.

    Ironically or typically actually, a one world government is the goal of every villain or group of villains since the beginning of time. It seems a bit odd that people assume that a one world government is progress when everyone knows that the goal of bad people in general.

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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    Obviously a huge hypothetical as we are not ready for a world government yet, but in the future if all nations have become democratic in nature would you support the United Nations of Earth so to speak? Could each nation work as a state and have different nations rights like we have state rights? The only problem is there would be no one to trade with so ultimately we would have to work to keep the nation alive trading among each other. Honestly I don't even know if capitalism would work for a world government since there would be no competition. There's a ton of things to considerand I personally think because of human nature a world government in even 200 years isn't possible. But as a hypothetical would you support such a idea?
    I would never support this under any circumstance, at any point in the future, no matter what.

    In other words : NO WAY.

    Our current government is too large and unrepresentative. I can't imagine how tyrannical and out-of-touch a world government would be.

    It would be an interesting lesson for Liberals to learn, though, when you figure out that it sucks that all your money is being syphoned off to China and India to fund programs over there... being that they're a bigger voting block.

    Never in a million years.

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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    Obviously a huge hypothetical as we are not ready for a world government yet, but in the future if all nations have become democratic in nature would you support the United Nations of Earth so to speak? Could each nation work as a state and have different nations rights like we have state rights? The only problem is there would be no one to trade with so ultimately we would have to work to keep the nation alive trading among each other. Honestly I don't even know if capitalism would work for a world government since there would be no competition. There's a ton of things to considerand I personally think because of human nature a world government in even 200 years isn't possible. But as a hypothetical would you support such a idea?
    It would take more than just all the countries in the world becoming democratic. It would take a profound, fundemental shift in the way that people think.

    First it would require far less greedy people than there is in the entire world. I'm sorry to say that is not going to happen any time soon.

    Second it would require the majority (if not all) of the people on this earth to aquire a "live and let live" attitude. Again, this is not going to happen any time soon.

    Third we would need a VERY limited World Government that ONLY concerned itself with interstate disputes (if there are "states") and making sure that no one was murdered, stolen from, or physically harmed by anyone else.

    Fourth, it would require that every human on this planet give up thier sense of nationalistic pride. Again, not going to happen any time soon. (note: this doesn't mean that people have to give up cultural pride...there is a difference)

    And lastly it would require a cheap, unlimited energy source. You might wonder why I add this to my list. The reason is simple. With a cheap, unlimited energy source there would be far less disputes over land.

    While I have entertained the idea of a one world government I know that it is not going to be feasible unless something drastic happens. There are advantages to it. But right now, or even in the forseeable future, it is just not possible.
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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    I don't think the US is a good example of how a world government would be.
    American government is relatively dysfunctional.
    Alot would be dependent on how said world government is structured... most people seem to be working at worst case scenario examples.
    cmon everyone gotta be optimistic for it to happen

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