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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    A Constitution would be meaningless without a government to enforce and uphold it.
    If you read my first post in this thread, you will see I mean something different for "government". The government must act as a judge and certainly NOT as economic policy to boost growth, GDP, bla-bla-bla.
    As to enforcing international order, imagine you are at class and you have a bully that beats some of the weaker pupils, may be even you. What you do is getter the council (i.e. the class itself) and decide what to do with him. If you have to you can even give him the beating of a lifetime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Do you really believe that we could have any better success keeping a worldwide government under control, than we have had with our own national government?
    Well, that depends on the type of the OWG. At the current stage, no.

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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    If you read my first post in this thread, you will see I mean something different for "government". The government must act as a judge and certainly NOT as economic policy to boost growth, GDP, bla-bla-bla.
    As to enforcing international order, imagine you are at class and you have a bully that beats some of the weaker pupils, may be even you. What you do is getter the council (i.e. the class itself) and decide what to do with him. If you have to you can even give him the beating of a lifetime.



    Well, that depends on the type of the OWG. At the current stage, no.
    Now that is funny as hell.

    What actually happens is the rest of the class stands around and laughs while the bully beats your ass because they don't want him to beat their ass.

    The same thing happens with natiion states. Look at WWII. Did any country get in until they feared attack was eminent or were actually attacked?

    The USA now ges around the world beating on one small country after another. Has anyone dared challenge them?

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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    What actually happens is the rest of the class stands around and laughs while the bully beats your ass because they don't want him to beat their ass.
    Not if they agree to have order in the class and defend that order.

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    The same thing happens with natiion states. Look at WWII. Did any country get in until they feared attack was eminent or were actually attacked?
    I don't recall any international agreement at the time to keep peace in the world.

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    The USA now ges around the world beating on one small country after another. Has anyone dared challenge them?
    You're right, perhaps the first thing that the OWG must do is kick uncle Sam's ass for being the bully of the world.

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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Not if they agree to have order in the class and defend that order.



    I don't recall any international agreement at the time to keep peace in the world.



    You're right, perhaps the first thing that the OWG must do is kick uncle Sam's ass for being the bully of the world.
    Have at it big boy.

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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Have you carefully considered the logic of your post?

    Seems to me that a one world government would prevent the likelihood of a third world war, not precipitate it.
    Right, so the League of Nations managed to prevent WWII? Has the UN, a massive failure, prevent the Cold War, the Middle East mess, the African wars, or any wars?
    The fallacy with a world government is simple:
    Without a strong military, the strongest in the world, it cannot hope to survive and enforce its own rules. However, if it does have such a military, imagine the consequences.
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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    You employ your rights to freedom of speech, assembly, the press, as well as the right to bear arms, obviously. This is why such individual rights would have to be a non-negotiable condition of such a world republic constitution.
    Oh right, so you think the rest of the 6.7 billion population will all agree with US ideals of "human rights"?
    This is why I hate OWG supporters
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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    The UN's biggest provable role in war hasn't been stopping them but coordinating a response to them. Bosnia, Iraq/Kuwait, and (I'm sure you don't need this reminder) Korea are a few examples. Without some kind of system already in place any response to those acts of aggression would have been delayed even more.

    We don't know - can't know - how many things have been avoided or mitigated by UN negotiations or the UN just being there as a watchdog.

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Oh right, so you think the rest of the 6.7 billion population will all agree with US ideals of "human rights"?
    This is why I hate OWG supporters
    I can agree with this assessment. Countries need to decide for themselves what kind of society they want but their should be limits. Bombing whole indigenous populations out of existence and other mass killings is one of them. External aggression is another. But whether a country wants to make it illegal for women to drive or not is nobody else's business. At this point in time I do not support a OWG.
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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    If you read my first post in this thread, you will see I mean something different for "government". The government must act as a judge and certainly NOT as economic policy to boost growth, GDP, bla-bla-bla.
    As to enforcing international order, imagine you are at class and you have a bully that beats some of the weaker pupils, may be even you. What you do is getter the council (i.e. the class itself) and decide what to do with him. If you have to you can even give him the beating of a lifetime.



    Well, that depends on the type of the OWG. At the current stage, no.
    If a "one world government" thinks revenge as to the bully problem, then the world does NOT need this.....so-called government..
    The "bully" needs love and forgivness.....those who stand around when others are being bullied are no better, even worse than the bully..
    The UNseems to "stand around".
    So, while in the future we will have a OWG, right now we do not have the people for this.
    A shortage of manpower exists..

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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post

    Oh right, so you think the rest of the 6.7 billion population will all agree with US ideals of "human rights"?
    I didn't say that.

    Surely, the formation a world republic will require considerable negotiation about a plethora of issues within a very diverse field of opinion. This will be no easy task. It comes as no surprise that there has never been a world republic throughout the entire course of human history.
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    Re: Do you support a world government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Oh right, so you think the rest of the 6.7 billion population will all agree with US ideals of "human rights"?
    This is why I hate OWG supporters
    IMO, they should, if they were living in the 21st century; but "they" are not....Its closer to the stone age...for Russia, China, it may be the 1800s....and this, we must respect...hard as it is to do.

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