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Thread: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    Being here (and in other political forums) where I've read the arguments presented by various posters where I had to weave through all the nonsense, lies, bigotry, and hatred searching for truth I can honestly say I've moved much farther left.

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I have learned a great many things here, but in an overall sense, if anything, being here has cemented my views. My political life's journey has roughly been Republican/Conservative --> Libertarian --> Centrist. Now, I am even more committed to 'centrist' as many here have convinced me of some of the unrealistic and absurd positions of the Libertarian philosophy. When taken to the extreme, I mean.

    Rather than pick on Libertarians specifically... to be fair, they are only the most recent disappointment for me, not the only... maybe a better way to phrase it would be to say that the extreme of any of the political ideologies would be realistically unworkable if implemented in real life. In a nutshell, any of the ideologies will work on paper, and could work if everybody involved were like-minded, but that's precisely the huge failing of all the ideologies... they fail to take into account that human nature doesn't allow for lock-step agreement and that human nature will thwart them and their best intentions every single time. Hence, centrism, here I am.
    In essence...you have studied more than enough in both main parties to be dissatisfied, looked outside the to other mainstream choices and been dissatisfied again. Welcome to the independent world...they all suck.

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    In essence...you have studied more than enough in both main parties to be dissatisfied, looked outside the to other mainstream choices and been dissatisfied again. Welcome to the independent world...they all suck.
    I hate to be so cynical, but I feel like I have no other option.

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I'm now a centrist, just to piss off American.
    You know I was hoping for serious responses, but there are always assholes who have to **** up whatever you try to do.
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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You know I was hoping for serious responses, but there are always assholes who have to **** up whatever you try to do.
    Looks like it worked.

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Looks like it worked.
    True, because none of the people who voted, became liberal while they were here, they came here already liberal.
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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You know I was hoping for serious responses, but there are always assholes who have to **** up whatever you try to do.
    Perhaps it's a reflection on the quality of the OP.
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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You know I was hoping for serious responses, but there are always assholes who have to **** up whatever you try to do.
    Right, but unless you were born yesterday, you should know that telling others you don't want to "buzz off" actually only encourages them.

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    I started my interest in politics a few months back, when I naively declared myself a democratic socialist. As my political knowledge grew, pragmatism and skepticism eventually won over. This cause me to shift from socialism to a moderate social-democratic position (basically center-left in all regards). As I learned even more about different viewpoints, my economic views moderated further over time (along with a very slight gain in social authoritarianism). Later I began to appreciate views around the entire spectrum. This basically ridded me of the dogmatic intolerance that was a natural byproduct of my social-liberal upbringing (I feel that dogmatic intolerance is demonstrated by both the liberal and conservative sides of the [false] dichotomy). As of now I sympathize heavily with liberalism, centrism, integralism, and social-democracy. I would best characterize myself with the broad term 'left-nationalist' currently (although I am still a social libertarian), and I've developed a harsh opposition to both totalitarianism and libertarian economics.
    Last edited by JustinS; 02-08-12 at 10:36 PM.

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    The only choices in your world is Liberal or Conservative? How narrow minded.

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