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Thread: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    Only one change in about 15 years. I was a militant atheist ~5 years ago.

    Now, I think the supression of metaphysical expression is low class (1) and authoritarian (2).

    (1) Anyone who's ever had an extra dollar in their pocket (thus a bit of free time), has contemplated the unseen/unknown.
    (2) It's like saying "shut up, don't express your metaphysical beliefs unless they fall within my own paradigm".


    I'm still atheist (always have been), but now I find religion interesting because it gives people an avenue of expression that's fascinating to investigate.
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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

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    Maybe I even was a pacifist quite a while ago, and debating made me change this view. Not debate on this forum in particular, but other forums I used to debate on before.
    Oh, come on. Give me credit where credit is due.

    Don't worry, I'll still call you a pacifist when you resist my push for world domination/annihilation.

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    I really did not become a free market communist until experiencing the myriad charms of this forum.
    "you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    I changed my party many years ago simply because my party changed, now I look at this joke going on and am absolutely sure I did the right thing.

    Reagan would be so damn pissed right now!

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    Not enough options. Noone absolutely changes. Moderation often occurs. Drift. Middle ground begins to have some attraction. I consider Republicans NeoCons, not basic conservatives.

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    I consider Republicans NeoCons
    Last I heard, neocons were libertarian hawks... but the definition changes with every pundit and angle of demonization.
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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    my political ideology has never changed since i knew myself...

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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    Other than Ron Paul, I thought it certain I would vote for ANY Republican over Obama and overall also just vote against all incumbents (both tickets) that I get to vote about. Now I will vote against ALL Republicans for national office and probably state office.

    The ever escalating extreme contest between Republicans and their talking heads of who more vows to more extremely use the federal government to impose and enforce religious doctrines reached a point of intolerance.

    But predictably. Almost all of that is targeted at my direct family, my friends, and myself. Each one of us as the evil the vow to rein in, punish, restrict or stop. Mostly, that evil of our existing at all or not sharing their religious doctrines to be specific.

    I will vote against Republicans because I oppose an evangelical theocratic federal government pursuing enforced evangelical theocratic policies thru government power against us - and everyone else.

    The Republican Party has rapidly discarded many of its platforms to replace those with a zealous pursuit instead of religious dogmatic doctrines. Since I disagree with all of those and are we are one of there many, many targets, obviously can't vote Republican.
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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    Maybe a bit. Over the years since I've joined this forum, I've evolved from having vaguely libertarian-ish views to being a more solid liberal. I'm not sure if this had anything to do with this forum itself, or merely the fact that this time period coincided with me growing up, finishing college, and realizing that it's silly to try to attempt to fit every political issue into a neat ideological box (rather than evaluating each individual issue on its merits).
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    Re: So have you changed your political lean since you've been here?

    I have learned a great many things here, but in an overall sense, if anything, being here has cemented my views. My political life's journey has roughly been Republican/Conservative --> Libertarian --> Centrist. Now, I am even more committed to 'centrist' as many here have convinced me of some of the unrealistic and absurd positions of the Libertarian philosophy. When taken to the extreme, I mean.

    Rather than pick on Libertarians specifically... to be fair, they are only the most recent disappointment for me, not the only... maybe a better way to phrase it would be to say that the extreme of any of the political ideologies would be realistically unworkable if implemented in real life. In a nutshell, any of the ideologies will work on paper, and could work if everybody involved were like-minded, but that's precisely the huge failing of all the ideologies... they fail to take into account that human nature doesn't allow for lock-step agreement and that human nature will thwart them and their best intentions every single time. Hence, centrism, here I am.

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