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    1st Amendment Violation?

    Right-wing red state South Dakota, who also spots a Constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, is now putting their religious symbols in the tax-payer funded municipal flag:

    Lawmakers Proposing New SD Flag
    Local News by Adam Uhernik last edited on Thursday, January 26, 2012




    At least 80 South Dakota lawmakers say it's time the state has more than just an official seal. They want an official flag.
    Representative Bernie Hunhoff is sponsoring a bill that aims to adopt a flag that would be separate from the state's seal. It would still use the Texas' lone star flag as its inspiration.


    Hunhoff says the Texas design is "a source of unity and pride for the state." he adds, "I believe a flag can do the same thing for South Dakota."

    A Spearfish artist drew the design, which has a Native American medicine wheel surrounded by yellow rays of sunshine on a sky-blue background.
    See also: Flag on the Play

    Does the presence of these religious symbols on a State flag violate the 1st Amendment? Are some people more apathetic to the presence of non-Christian religious symbols? What do you think about the proposed new flag?

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    Re: 1st Amendment Violation?

    When I first saw it I thought of a Celtic Cross, so it could very well be.
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    Re: 1st Amendment Violation?

    I defer to the will of the people. If no one challenges it, then I see no reason to stop it.

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    Re: 1st Amendment Violation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Right-wing red state South Dakota, who also spots a Constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, is now putting their religious symbols in the tax-payer funded municipal flag:



    See also: Flag on the Play

    Does the presence of these religious symbols on a State flag violate the 1st Amendment? Are some people more apathetic to the presence of non-Christian religious symbols? What do you think about the proposed new flag?
    A Spearfish artist drew the design, which has a Native American medicine wheel surrounded by yellow rays of sunshine on a sky-blue background
    The Native American medicine wheel played a big part in thier spiritual beliefs but I don't recall anyone calling it a religion before. I suppose it could be considered as such if people really want to be persnickity about it. Which I am sure that there will be people that are.
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    Re: 1st Amendment Violation?

    I really had to read the story almost all the way through before I could figure out what was being considered a "religious symbol". I'm still more along the lines of WTF. A circle with a symmetric cross in it could be so many things. Cross-hairs for example. Maybe it's promoting gun rights? I donno, it symbolizes that we are separate individuals (the quarters) yet united together (the circle). Just throwing out possible interpretations. Just because it looks like a medicine wheel doesn't mean it is one.

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    I don't see any religious symbols, just ugliness.
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    The systems that ensure freedom and liberty are breaking down and fundamentalism is growing. Nobody is righteous anymore.


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    Re: 1st Amendment Violation?

    If that's what everyone there wants, why not. It is isn't let them speak up.










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    Re: 1st Amendment Violation?

    It's on the state level, its being done for historical symbolism rather than promotion or statement regarding the adherance or worth or importance of a religion, and its not to me the government prohibiting the practice of religion nor establishing or endorsing a state religion. I've got no real issue with it on a personal level .

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    Re: 1st Amendment Violation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Right-wing red state South Dakota, who also spots a Constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, is now putting their religious symbols in the tax-payer funded municipal flag:



    See also: Flag on the Play

    Does the presence of these religious symbols on a State flag violate the 1st Amendment? Are some people more apathetic to the presence of non-Christian religious symbols? What do you think about the proposed new flag?
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"


    No it does not violate the first amendment.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: 1st Amendment Violation?

    i dont think the flag would be an issue so long as the symbol reflects the states heritage in some way.

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