View Poll Results: Are People Fundamentally Good, Bad, Both, Either, or Neither?

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    11 29.73%
  • Bad

    7 18.92%
  • Both (equally good and bad)

    2 5.41%
  • Either (some are one, some are the other)

    10 27.03%
  • Neither (nobody's good and/or bad)

    7 18.92%
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    Are People Fundamentally Good, Bad, Both, Either, or Neither?

    This seems to influence people's positions a lot.

    Some people believe people need to be ruled over because they're naughty. Other people believe people need to be let free because they're nice.

    Other people believe people need to be ruled over to protect the nice. Some people believe people need to be let free to avoid the naughty.

    I guess there are sadistic reciprocations to all of these too.

    Anyway, I'm just focusing on the good and bad part here. Whether people need to be ruled over or let free is another story.

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    Re: Are People Fundamentally Good, Bad, Both, Either, or Neither?

    I believe people are basically good. The reason I say this is that societies tend to progress and become more sophisticated rather than the opposite. In other words, productive behaviors, which are often the result of good, outweigh destructive behaviors, such as crime.

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    Re: Are People Fundamentally Good, Bad, Both, Either, or Neither?

    People are neither fundamentally good or bad, people watch out for their own best interests and that may be good or bad, depending on the situation. People are fundamentally selfish.
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    Re: Are People Fundamentally Good, Bad, Both, Either, or Neither?

    Both and either.

    Human beings are a dichotomy. There are tendencies within us that are good, and others that are bad. Having enough intellect that we are not slaved to our instincts, we are also capable of CHOOSING good or ill, and some choose to do bad consciously.

    No human being is pure good, nor are many pure evil. None of us are so good that we do not sometimes harm others out of selfishness or carelessness or a moment of emotional turmoil. Few are so evil that they do not have some hint of good within them... sometimes even the worst mass-murderers have a sentimental fondness for animals or children, or seem to love their own family.

    A lot of the good and ill we do is in some sense derived from social pressures and from our environment. Many will do good when it is easy and convenient and safe to do so.... few stick their neck out when it is difficult, dangerous or costly.

    Social pressures have a lot to do with whether we manifest good or bad behaviors.

    Need and necessity can make a killer out of the most gentle of persons.

    For many people, civilization is a thin veneer that is soon stripped away if they find themselves hungry, cold, or lacking what others have.

    Spiritually, I believe we are all born with a spark of the Divine within us... a spiritual connection to God, a conscience. We can cultivate that spark, or we can throw dirt on it until it is extinguished. This is a choice we make.

    On the whole I think there is good in humanity, but we are tainted with evil and with the potential for great evil, and only great stress and dire necessity can prove which is dominant in any given individual.

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    Re: Are People Fundamentally Good, Bad, Both, Either, or Neither?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    People are neither fundamentally good or bad, people watch out for their own best interests and that may be good or bad, depending on the situation. People are fundamentally selfish.
    some people are much worse than the others,,some people are more selfish.........

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    Re: Are People Fundamentally Good, Bad, Both, Either, or Neither?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    People are fundamentally selfish.
    In other words, people are bad.

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    Re: Are People Fundamentally Good, Bad, Both, Either, or Neither?

    "Fundamently" and that being the key word here. I think people are by nature good. On the other hand, put a bag of money in the dynamic and all hell breaks loose.

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    Re: Are People Fundamentally Good, Bad, Both, Either, or Neither?

    I think most... key word: most... people are fundamentally good and decent and at least want to do the right thing. However, there is also a selfish streak, which is necessary for survival, IMO, and we also have the uncanny ability to rationalize.

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    Re: Are People Fundamentally Good, Bad, Both, Either, or Neither?

    All people are born with an evil nature.
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    Re: Are People Fundamentally Good, Bad, Both, Either, or Neither?

    Stole my thread...

    I say good. Because we are inclined to do the things that keep us alive and prosperous, and the things that we call "good" tend to be community oriented and socially positive. We evolved to be kind to each other because the people who weren't died. We are good because being good is more practical than being bad.
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