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Bargain With Iran

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I am not saying that they are... just that your source is no more conclusive than mine. That is the point.


This sounds exactly like Iraq, we don't need any stinkin' proof of WMD, all we need is our paranoia to start a needless decade long war.
 
This sounds exactly like Iraq, we don't need any stinkin' proof of WMD, all we need is our paranoia to start a needless decade long war.

It probably is just like Iraq and only Ron Paul will address this. The rest are ready to invade at the drop of the hat.
 
It probably is just like Iraq and only Ron Paul will address this. The rest are ready to invade at the drop of the hat.

Ron Paul can't win, so it will be us to stop it. The majority of Democrats voted against Iraq. We just need to vote more Democrats to Congress this election.
 
I am not saying that they are... just that your source is no more conclusive than mine. That is the point.

No it is conclusive. There is no evidence that Iran is even building a nuclear weapon, yet pundits across the nation declare it as an incontestable fact. It's propaganda, just like Iraq. That's not to say that they are not, because it's impossible to prove a negative. However, if we're going to amp up our rhetoric and talk about invading Iran, maybe we should have some evidence that they're even doing what we say they're doing.
 
Ron Paul can't win, so it will be us to stop it. The majority of Democrats voted against Iraq. We just need to vote more Democrats to Congress this election.

The only reason to vote Democrat at this point is to get out of a potential war that may or may not happen... other than that a Republican is the best course of action for America.
 
No it is conclusive. There is no evidence that Iran is even building a nuclear weapon, yet pundits across the nation declare it as an incontestable fact. It's propaganda, just like Iraq. That's not to say that they are not, because it's impossible to prove a negative. However, if we're going to amp up our rhetoric and talk about invading Iran, maybe we should have some evidence that they're even doing what we say they're doing.

I know that I can't stand watching Fox when they get on these rants... that's for sure. They almost literally start drooling when the topic comes up and you can see rage in their eyes when anybody contests the fact as you are. They have some serious problems...
 
Ron Paul can't win, so it will be us to stop it. The majority of Democrats voted against Iraq. We just need to vote more Democrats to Congress this election.

...and Paul probably won't win, but that remains to be seen. He is the best Presidential candidate that I have seen come along in thirty years.
 
The only reason to vote Democrat at this point is to get out of a potential war that may or may not happen... other than that a Republican is the best course of action for America.

Eh, I don't see the difference between the non-Paul Republicans and Democrats at this point in time.
 
I know that I can't stand watching Fox when they get on these rants... that's for sure. They almost literally start drooling when the topic comes up and you can see rage in their eyes when anybody contests the fact as you are. They have some serious problems...

Definition of a war hawk: see infantile actions plus fetish with military.
 
Definition of a war hawk: see infantile actions plus fetish with military.

Ron Paul shut up Greta somebody this morning on Fox with regards to Iran... it was literally some of the best TV that I have seen in a while.
 
Eh, I don't see the difference between the non-Paul Republicans and Democrats at this point in time.

That is actually a pretty accurate statement. I agree.
 
The only reason to vote Democrat at this point is to get out of a potential war that may or may not happen... other than that a Republican is the best course of action for America.

Romney and almost a unanimous majority of his party voted for war on Iraq, he recently said he thought Obama should have left our troops in Iraq after he withdrew them, he thinks we are withdrawing troops too quickly from Afghanistan, he thinks we need to take a tougher approach with Iran, and has proposed increased spending on the military.

Thanks, but I will take my chances with Obama who has proposed cuts to military spending.
 
...and Paul probably won't win, but that remains to be seen. He is the best Presidential candidate that I have seen come along in thirty years.

Best military policy, I'll give you that much.
 
Romney and almost a unanimous majority of his party voted for war on Iraq, he recently said he thought Obama should have left our troops in Iraq after he withdrew them, he thinks we are withdrawing troops too quickly from Afghanistan, he thinks we need to take a tougher approach with Iran, and has proposed increased spending on the military.

Thanks, but I will take my chances with Obama who has proposed cuts to military spending.

That is why I specifically mentioned getting out of the war... I think that in most other issues especially the economy Obama doesn't know what the hell he is doing.
 
Surf is up... sun is out... beach is 1 minute walk away... you do the math.

I am outa here. Take it easy. :)
 
That is why I specifically mentioned getting out of the war... I think that in most other issues especially the economy Obama doesn't know what the hell he is doing.

He turned an economy that was in a death spiral towards another Great Depression and has turned it around in less time than I thought would be possible. We've now had 23 straight months of economic growth, unemployment is lower now than when he came into office, and he's created more manufacturing jobs than any president in the last 4 presidents.

What has the Republican Congress done?


What does Romney propose? More Bush policy, he's said he will cut taxes for the rich, twice as much as the Bush tax cuts and increase military spending. Isn't this exactly how Bush ran up the debt???
 
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Thanks, but I will take my chances with Obama who has proposed cuts to military spending.

The same Barack Obama who signed the NDAA, greatly expanded the use of drones, is amping up rhetoric toward Iran, left 100,000 mercenaries in Iraq after supposedly pulling out, helped to instigate violence in Libya, and is annoying Pakistan to no end? He's better?

Crap, we're screwed.
 
He turned an economy that was in a death spiral towards another Great Depression and has turned it around in less time than I thought would be possible. We've now had 23 straight months of economic growth, unemployment is lower now than when he came into office, and he's created more manufacturing jobs than any president in the last 4 presidents.

What has the Republican Congress done?


What does Romney propose? More Bush policy, he's said he will cut taxes for the rich, twice as much as the Bush tax cuts and increase military spending. Isn't this exactly how Bush ran up the debt???

I'm sorry, unemployment is what now?

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Unless we had a reversal of the feminist movement, then we have an unemployment problem.
 
The same Barack Obama who signed the NDAA, greatly expanded the use of drones, is amping up rhetoric toward Iran, left 100,000 mercenaries in Iraq after supposedly pulling out, helped to instigate violence in Libya, and is annoying Pakistan to no end? He's better?

Crap, we're screwed.

As opposed to Romney who also supports NDAA, who thinks Obama has been too much of a dove and wants to increase military spending? Yup!
 
I'm sorry, unemployment is what now?

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Unless we had a reversal of the feminist movement, then we have an unemployment problem.

So according to you Obama is responsible for the employment dropping like a rock in 2007, but is not responsible for the turnaround under his first 3 years.???

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Now how about we get back on topic.
 
As opposed to Romney who also supports NDAA, who thinks Obama has been too much of a dove and wants to increase military spending? Yup!

Hence my defeatist last line of the post.
 
So according to you Obama is responsible for the employment dropping like a rock in 2007, but is not responsible for the turnaround under his first 3 years.???

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Now how about we get back on topic.

No. According to me Obama has fixed nothing. He's stabilized the economy at pitiful. That's not really a grand achievement. All he's accomplished is fancy accounting tricks where we just ignore unemployed people if they've been unemployed long enough. The employment-population ratio proves that.
 
No. According to me Obama has fixed nothing. He's stabilized the economy at pitiful. That's not really a grand achievement. All he's accomplished is fancy accounting tricks where we just ignore unemployed people if they've been unemployed long enough. The employment-population ratio proves that.

The unemployed are being accounted for the same way they have been for decades, and what does that have to do with Iran?
 
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