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Thread: Bargain With Iran

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As opposed to Romney who also supports NDAA, who thinks Obama has been too much of a dove and wants to increase military spending? Yup!
    Hence my defeatist last line of the post.

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So according to you Obama is responsible for the employment dropping like a rock in 2007, but is not responsible for the turnaround under his first 3 years.???




    Now how about we get back on topic.
    No. According to me Obama has fixed nothing. He's stabilized the economy at pitiful. That's not really a grand achievement. All he's accomplished is fancy accounting tricks where we just ignore unemployed people if they've been unemployed long enough. The employment-population ratio proves that.

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Hence my defeatist last line of the post.
    And your alternative is what???
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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    No. According to me Obama has fixed nothing. He's stabilized the economy at pitiful. That's not really a grand achievement. All he's accomplished is fancy accounting tricks where we just ignore unemployed people if they've been unemployed long enough. The employment-population ratio proves that.
    The unemployed are being accounted for the same way they have been for decades, and what does that have to do with Iran?
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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And your alternative is what???
    Peace candidate or bust.

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Simply put, if Iran offered to end their nuclear program if we dismantled some of our nuclear weapons, would you take the offer?
    Ya, we already did. It was called the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. Iran has decided it is too good to follow that.

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The unemployed are being accounted for the same way they have been for decades, and what does that have to do with Iran?
    Whatever helps you ignore the issue I suppose.

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Peace candidate or bust.
    Ron Paul??? Best of luck to you!
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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Whatever helps you ignore the issue I suppose.
    You wish me to ignore the facts so I can accept what you say?
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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    Ya, we already did. It was called the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. Iran has decided it is too good to follow that.

    There is no nuclear proliferation going on as far as I have heard.
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