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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    From the Resolution:

    "There was concern that Iran had not yet fully suspended uranium enrichmentactivities, resumed co-operation with the IAEA or clarified issues relating to a possible military dimension to its nuclear program.[3]The Council recognised that access to diverse, reliable energy was critical for sustainable growth and development, and emphasised the rights of states in international trade. It called upon Iran to ratify theComprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty and was determined to take appropriate measures to make Iran comply with provisions in previous Security Council resolutions and requirements of the IAEA.[3]

    "There is concern." That's pretty tough language there!

    I must have missed the part about any proposed military action. Could you quote that for me?
    What kind of strawman tactic was that?

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yep, and Reagan had Iraq removed from the Terrorist Nations Listing and Rumsfeld was over there schmoozing it up with Saddam when he was at his murderous worst.

    Funny that, isn't it?
    Wow must be an conspiracy.

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yep, and Reagan had Iraq removed from the Terrorist Nations Listing and Rumsfeld was over there schmoozing it up with Saddam when he was at his murderous worst.

    Funny that, isn't it?
    Yeah, really funny...just like how you murder history every chance you get. Context means nothing to the uneducated.
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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    What kind of strawman tactic was that?
    How is pointing out a quote from the Resolution that you sourced a strawman? "Concern" is far from from the paranoia from what some on the far right are expressing about Iran?


    "There was concern that Iran had not yet fully suspended uranium enrichmentactivities, resumed co-operation with the IAEA or clarified issues relating to a possible military dimension to its nuclear program.[3]The Council recognised that access to diverse, reliable energy was critical for sustainable growth and development, and emphasised the rights of states in international trade. It called upon Iran to ratify theComprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty and was determined to take appropriate measures to make Iran comply with provisions in previous Security Council resolutions and requirements of the IAEA.[3]
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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, really funny...just like how you murder history every chance you get. Context means nothing to the uneducated.
    You let me know what I got wrong, How about that? Be sure to include your sources. Thanks!
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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    But a United Nations report released in November 2011 challenged that claim. The International Atomic Energy Agency released a trove of evidence that they said makes a “credible” case that “Iran has carried out activities relevant to the development of a nuclear device” and that the project may still be under way. The report said the I.A.E.A. had amassed “over a thousand pages” of documents, presumably leaked out of Iran, showing “research, development and testing activities” on a range of technologies that would only be useful in designing a nuclear weapon.


    Iran's Nuclear Program - News - The New York Times
    But it does not claim that Iran definitely is building the weapon. That is the propaganda.

    Getting ahead of the facts on Iran - The Washington Post

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How is pointing out a quote from the Resolution that you sourced a strawman? "Concern" is far from from the paranoia from what some on the far right are expressing about Iran?


    "There was concern that Iran had not yet fully suspended uranium enrichmentactivities, resumed co-operation with the IAEA or clarified issues relating to a possible military dimension to its nuclear program.[3]The Council recognised that access to diverse, reliable energy was critical for sustainable growth and development, and emphasised the rights of states in international trade. It called upon Iran to ratify theComprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty and was determined to take appropriate measures to make Iran comply with provisions in previous Security Council resolutions and requirements of the IAEA.[3]
    First of all I made no claims about military action nor that the sanctions that there will be. Second, I am not echoing the far right.

    It was a strawman argument from you because I did not make such claims instead you are trying to tell me that I am. You asked if the UN made a decision that Iran is in violation? I provided that decision. How you jumped to that meaning something about threatening military action is beyond me. Do you hear voices in your head or something?

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, really funny...just like how you murder history every chance you get. Context means nothing to the uneducated.
    Rumsfeld was on the board of directors of ABB corporation when they sold $200 million in nuclear parts to Norht Korea.............

    What was the "context"?

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    First of all I made no claims about military action nor that the sanctions that there will be. Second, I am not echoing the far right.

    It was a strawman argument from you because I did not make such claims instead you are trying to tell me that I am. You asked if the UN made a decision that Iran is in violation? I provided that decision. How you jumped to that meaning something about threatening military action is beyond me. Do you hear voices in your head or something?
    You provided a resolution of concern. Thanks!
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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    But it does not claim that Iran definitely is building the weapon. That is the propaganda.

    Getting ahead of the facts on Iran - The Washington Post
    I am not saying that they are... just that your source is no more conclusive than mine. That is the point.
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