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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Simply put, if Iran offered to end their nuclear program if we dismantled some of our nuclear weapons, would you take the offer?
    We are dismantling some of our nuclear weapons now in a mutal reduction deal with Russia. Are you suggesting we reduce ours to Iran's level of zero? That would surely be the "deal" if Iran signed on. And NO...that would be idotic.

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    This is a rather naive point of view.The rest of the region fears Iran having nuclear weapons. Iran is views as a threat to peace.


    In a study done by the "Arab American Institute six Arab nations poll show real concern with Iran’s current and future role in the region."


    Arab Attitudes Toward Iran: 2011 | The Arab American Institute
    Interesting link the the Arab American Institute.. Thanks..

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Wouldnt it be funny if Israel was bluffing? Or some ironic humor lets invade Israel and see if they really have any WMD. I mean just like Iraq there are stories that say that they have WMD's. :P
    IS the US considering invading and occupying Israel???
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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    oil is bought and sold in other currencies,but the us dollar is the main currency used.the focus with the petro dollar with iran and iraq was that after they swithced to euros,other countries would slowly fall suit and since our currency is directly related to oil,it allows us to print more money and have it still hold value because most major countries require dollars to buy oil.

    and basically in switching from the gold standard to the petro dollar and debt to maintain value,the united states and most major countries started a large ponzi scheme that will fail.war with iraq and dealing with iran is nothing more than hanging on to that scheme even longer.this is also why rich people like to invest in gold,if china dumps all our debt and all countries dropped the dollar for trading,the rich would still have precious metals while everyone else would have to keep a currency thats only worth the paper its printed on.for this reason the united states has a large gold reserve just incase the dollar fails,but that gold standard wouldnt be worth as much to the country in whole as inflated printable money.


    Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Drinking that Ron Paul kool-aid I see. But you are also wrong about the dollar, the reason we can print more is that investors snap up our Govt. bonds in any amount we want. Precious metals based currency went out with the 19th century and will never come back. You can't eat gold or run your car with it. It is inherently nearly worthless except fo r baubles. The faith in the stability of the US Govt. and its currency on the other hand is priceless. No amount of right wing bad mouthing seems to be able to change that. Doesn't that just burn you up?
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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Simply put, if Iran offered to end their nuclear program if we dismantled some of our nuclear weapons, would you take the offer?



    Nuclear weapons? Nuclear program? Nahhhh....... it's only for electricity


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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Nuclear weapons? Nuclear program? Nahhhh....... it's only for electricity
    If Iran were only interested in generating electricity, and especialy NOT interested in inciting suspicion that they are pursuing a clandestine nuclear weapons program, they would not be building a heavy water reactor.

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    If Iran were only interested in generating electricity, and especialy NOT interested in inciting suspicion that they are pursuing a clandestine nuclear weapons program, they would not be building a heavy water reactor.

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    My guess is the poster was being facetious. I thought it was funny.

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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    My guess is the poster was being facetious. I thought it was funny.
    I am absolutely certain that the poster was being facetious. I thought it was funny too.
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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "There is extensive evidence Israel has nuclear weapons or a near-ready nuclear weapons capability."

    "According to the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Federation of American Scientists, Israel likely possesses around 75–200 nuclear weapons.[39][5] Imagery analysts can identify weapon bunkers, mobile missile launchers, and launch sites in satellite photographs.[citation needed] In May 2008, former US President Jimmy Carter stated that "Israel has 150 or more [nuclear weapons]."

    List of states with nuclear weapons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    "Four years after the United States dropped atomic bombs on Japan in August 1945, the Soviet Union detonated its first nuclear device. The United Kingdom (1952), France (1960), and China (1964) followed. Seeking to prevent the nuclear weapon ranks from expanding further, the United States and other like-minded states negotiated the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) in 1968. In the decades since, several states have abandoned nuclear weapons programs, but others have defied the NPT. India, Israel, and Pakistan have never signed the treaty and possess nuclear arsenals."

    Nuclear Weapons: Who Has What at a Glance | Arms Control Association


    Latest data in 2009: Israel - Nuclear warheads - 200 (total)

    Nuclear weapons: how many are there in 2009 and who has them? | World news | guardian.co.uk
    And still no credible source has proof Israel is a nuclear power. You can find plenty of sources that make that claim but none that can back it up.

    From Wiki: "possibly 1979 (See Vela Incident)"
    From ACA: "Israel has not publicly conducted a nuclear test, does not admit to or deny having nuclear weapons, and states that it will not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons in the Middle East. Nevertheless, Israel is universally believed to possess nuclear arms."
    Your third source doesn't list a source or have any proof other than a name on a list. (There's no way to tell if a missile is armed with a nuke or a conventional warhead without close-up examination.)

    Like I said, as far as I know there is no PROOF. I'm inclined to agree with most people that they probably do have them but they've done a very good job of concealing it if they do.

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    You may as well include Japan as to include Israel. Japan is certainly nuke capable and from what I've read could put a whole weapons program - cranking them out one after another - in place inside a year. How long the first would take to build is unknown.
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    Re: Bargain With Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    IS the US considering invading and occupying Israel???
    It doesnt really matter whether there are plans to invade Isreal or not. What does matter is that no one knows for sure that Israel has nukes. Assumptions are being made that Israel has nukes that affect the region. Isnt it the same people telling us that Israel has nukes that told us that Iraq had WMD's?

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