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    Re: Was Reagan a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzidoesit View Post
    Eisenhower got us started with Viet Nam when the French pulled out, as "advisors" and see what advising finally got us; 60,000 plus Americans killed for false ideology. Eisenhower sucked as bad as Reagan, IMO.
    I'm not a Republican but Eisenhower cannot be blamed for Vietnam plain and simple just as JFK can't be blamed for it. The only man that escalated that war was LBJ. Eisenhower and the 50's were some of America's best years, since him there's been nothing but mediocre to straight up terrible republican presidents.
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    Re: Was Reagan a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    I'm not a Republican but Eisenhower cannot be blamed for Vietnam plain and simple just as JFK can't be blamed for it. The only man that escalated that war was LBJ. Eisenhower and the 50's were some of America's best years, since him there's been nothing but mediocre to straight up terrible republican presidents.
    I beg to disagree. If Eistenhower had kept his nose out of VietNam, that conflagration might never have happened. Generals make terrible presidents.

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    Re: Was Reagan a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    How did Clinton "stop the spending"?
    Clinton raised taxes on the rich and cut spending to balance the budget. He left office with the government taking in more than it was spending. If GWB had not reversed that plan, the US economy would be in much, much better shape today.

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    Re: Was Reagan a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    I'm not a Republican but Eisenhower cannot be blamed for Vietnam plain and simple just as JFK can't be blamed for it. The only man that escalated that war was LBJ. Eisenhower and the 50's were some of America's best years, since him there's been nothing but mediocre to straight up terrible republican presidents.
    I'm not sure what you're talking about, but JFK can certainly be blamed for it. As if escalation is the only reason that war went to ****.

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    Re: Was Reagan a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzidoesit View Post
    Eisenhower got us started with Viet Nam when the French pulled out, as "advisors" and see what advising finally got us; 60,000 plus Americans killed for false ideology. Eisenhower sucked as bad as Reagan, IMO.

    In reality Truman decided to support the French when HCM was a big fan of the USA and pissed HCM off driving him to the Communists. Truman freaked out over Mainland China following to Mao and he couldn't figure out that HCM was a nationalist first and only adopted communism as a means to throw out the decadent French

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    Re: Was Reagan a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Clinton raised taxes on the rich and cut spending to balance the budget. He left office with the government taking in more than it was spending. If GWB had not reversed that plan, the US economy would be in much, much better shape today.
    Clinton got lucky with the dot com bubble. without that the tax hikes would have caused lots of problems

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    Re: Was Reagan a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm not sure what you're talking about, but JFK can certainly be blamed for it. As if escalation is the only reason that war went to ****.

    Eisenhower and JFK basically stayed out of the war without a full military presence and did special forces missions and aided the south Vietnamese much like we did with Libya, Paskistan, and other countries to fight enemies. There's no evidence Kennedy wanted a full blown war he just wanted to help these people where he could but he did not want all out war. LBJ is the only one who declared all out war on the Vietnamese and made it a true war.
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    Re: Was Reagan a good president?

    The nice thing about Reagan is that he made Americans feel good about being Americans, in the wake of Carter.
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    Re: Was Reagan a good president?

    I voted for Reagan twice. I thought he did a good job. He wasn't great, made his share of mistakes. I think his second term he was already being impacted by the Alzheimer's that eventually killed him. Nancy was prompting him with answers in his second term. That's a scary thought.
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    Reagan's tax cuts and deregulation helped, and as stated, Americans felt better about themselves. Smokestack america died, look up an article on the death of Johnstown, Pennsylvania. PA RUST BELT

    I don't think all the economic progress of the 80's was magically caused by him, he got lucky. Energy prices fell dramatically in the 80's, due to energy efficient cars that came from govt. mandated fleet fuel standards in the 70's plus the increased exploration spurred by the higher prices in the late 70's (that crashed in the 80's, from $35 a barrel down to $10 a barrel).

    He benefited from a boom of productivity spurred by the widespread use of PC's in business, Visicalc, Lotus 123, Word Perfect, Dbase IV, AutoCad, email, etc. Later Microsoft killed many PC applications with their "suite" of Excel, Word, and Access. This was a revolution of business productivity in one decade, and Reagan had nothing to do with it!
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