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    Re: Is the UN a joke?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Have you noticed, the world has changed...
    Has it been for the better? One can certainly argue that the government that those dead men wanted some 300 years ago was less corrupt.

    I can certainly see how our government is being run by these people:

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    and not these:

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    Re: Is the UN a joke?

    The UN, like ANY treaty organization, is only as important as its members will give it importance. How much importance do its members find in creating resolutions, and how much importance to they find in enforcing them are what defines the importance of the UN. That being said, the UN can be extremely important in many situations and extremely irrelevant in others but you cannot simply declare the entire thing as a whole important or unimportant.

    For example the Gulf War was an action under the authority of the UN, and the member nations of the UN as well as the member nations of the coalition gave the UN high importance in that regard and didn't move until it gave its go ahead.

    But in the Iraq War of 2003, the United States and other allies gave the UN little importance(although they did try) and thus in the end the United Nations had little to say and no power over the actions of the members of the coalition during that war.

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    Re: Is the UN a joke?

    We have an obligtion to make it work!

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    Re: Is the UN a joke?

    Evil is never a joke.

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    Re: Is the UN a joke?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The UN is only as effective as the powers its member countries are willing to vest it with. Which is not very much. Since countries are by nature reluctant to surrender even a tiny bit of sovereignty in most cases, it's unsurprising that the UN can't accomplish many of the things it wants to do.
    The bolded is a good thing.
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    Re: Is the UN a joke?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The bolded is a good thing.
    ever heard of the league of nations?

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    Re: Is the UN a joke?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    ever heard of the league of nations?
    Same premise, even less power and a miserable failure that makes even the U.N. seem workable.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Is the UN a joke?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The bolded is a good thing.
    I'll leave that discussion for another thread, not in the mood for a debate right now. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
    Last edited by StillBallin75; 02-05-12 at 01:38 AM.

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    Re: Is the UN a joke?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Same premise, even less power and a miserable failure that makes even the U.N. seem workable.
    failure because the US did no participate and the powers that remained allowed that Japenese Empire and the Nazis mock the system. It seems that lesson is lost on many of you.

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    Re: Is the UN a joke?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    failure because the US did no participate and the powers that remained allowed that Japenese Empire and the Nazis mock the system. It seems that lesson is lost on many of you.
    We participate in the U.N. and dictatorships along with Juntas and other unstable governments still mock it. The biggest problem with the U.N. is that they care more about the laws of member nations than actually getting problems taken care of. World gun control is a bigger issue to the U.N. than getting past the political handicap that keeps NATO forces from properly engaging hostiles.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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