View Poll Results: Are Conservatives Pro-Life or Anti-Choice

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    Re: Pro-Life vs Anti-Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I would call it anti-choice. When someone crusades desperately to limit your rights and options, that's as anti- as you can get.
    I wouldn't. When someone crusades to preserve human life, that's about being pro-life, not pro-choice (abortion).

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    Re: Pro-Life vs Anti-Choice

    Why do we need another abortion poll?
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    Re: Pro-Life vs Anti-Choice

    Probably some of each. Some people truly think that every single life is sacred. Others think that sperm is more important than women are.
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    Re: Pro-Life vs Anti-Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Why do we need another abortion poll?
    Because this notion that I am "anti-choice" needs to be addressed.
    Last edited by Sunbelt; 02-02-12 at 01:23 AM.

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    Re: Pro-Life vs Anti-Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Neither. I think the issue boils down to one side being-abortion rights, the other side being anti-abortion rights. To put it another way, one side("pro-choice") believes abortion is a right and should be legal, the other side("pro-life") feels abortion should not be a right and should not be legal. Euphemisms aside, the division boils down to whether abortion should be legal.
    That is it as a political issue. Some pro-lifers are not seeking to make it illegal - and most (not all) on both sides allow exceptions for abortion and prohibitions against it (late term).

    As a non-legal question, is is whether abortion is immoral or a woman's right? And then, again, what exceptions both ways if any.

    A viable question is what makes anti-abortion "conservative?" Generally, conservative means limited government, big military, and focus on self reliance individually than collectivism.

    How does any of that lead to anti-abortion?

    The media as SOOOO neatly divided all politics into 3 camps - conservative, liberal and kooks - with exactly the list of what each one then must be - that people have actually have come to accept that list as real and accurate.
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    Re: Pro-Life vs Anti-Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Address it on the abortion board next time if you MUST start a thread or poll on it, ok?
    Do you have some sort of authority here we should be aware of?

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    Re: Pro-Life vs Anti-Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Do you have some sort of authority here we should be aware of?
    No.

    I deleted my message to amend it:

    "I respectfully request that polls and new threads on an abortion topic be posted on the abortion board. Scattering them leads to too much redundancy and difficulty finding threads in my opinion."

    Is that better?
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    Re: Pro-Life vs Anti-Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Neither. I think the issue boils down to one side being pro-abortion rights, the other side being anti-abortion rights. To put it another way, one side("pro-choice") believes abortion is a right and should be legal, the other side("pro-life") feels abortion should not be a right and should not be legal. Euphemisms aside, the division boils down to whether abortion should be legal.
    Agreed. I detest the euphemisms in the abortion debate. IMO, they only serve to cloud the issue even further. For example, I am not aware of a single person who has ever had a medical procedure known specifically and technically as a "choice".

    The procedure and issue has a valid and perfectly acceptable name: abortion. If one wanted to be accurate, albeit wordy, about it, the two sides would be "pro legalized abortion" and "anti legalized abortion". Now, if we were all adults about it... hold on, I'm sorry, I have to do something... ... there, that's better... anyway, if we were all adults about it we could shorten those to "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion", and know that they mean in the legal sense, with no down-the-rabbit-hole meaning beyond that. *sigh* Alas, those who like the euphemisms aren't interested in accuracy.


    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Why do we need another abortion poll?
    Because some things just don't go away.

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    Re: Pro-Life vs Anti-Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No.

    I deleted my message to amend it:

    "I respectfully request that polls and new threads on an abortion topic be posted on the abortion board. Scattering them leads to too much redundancy and difficulty finding threads in my opinion."

    Is that better?
    Yes, that is much better. In fact, I actually agree with that.

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    Re: Pro-Life vs Anti-Choice

    I personal think it should be up to the mother. She's the one that has to go thru the pregnancy and actually give birth. Why would anyone else have the right to tell her what she should or shouldn't have to go thru in life. I know some of the choices that we've seen made are not pretty but as sick as it is they are the ones that have to live with their choices and suffer the consequences of their choices. I think we should work towards how it should be and deal with the sad cases as we have too.

    I think all the time and effort spent in debating and lobbying and stepping on individual rights should be spent on educating these girls and showing them what they cause ppls lives to be like when then make the different decisions. Give them something to do rather allow them to simply follow their desires. Should parents allow kids to eat and eat until they are so fat they can barely walk? No, the government has stopped parents from being parents and kids just follow their desires rather than learn a little before they hit life hard and end up in the gutter.

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