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    Re: Is the Pro-Choice Argument a Dominatrix Tease?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No, your OP is just bizarre. Pro-lifers don't want to talk in terms of realities of unwanted pregnancies post-birth. Rather, they want to argue religious or ideological theory over children - all that ends on the birth of children.
    Well yea, you can't participate in reality without ideology.

    Thoughts without content are empty, intuitions without concepts are blind. - Kant

    They want control ONLY so long as that control has no effect or liability to them.

    "Its your decision" is the definitional antithesis of being a dominatrix.
    I really don't know where you come up with this from. The pro-lifers I know, myself included, emphasize only having intercourse after marriage. If anything, that ensures the father will socially support the mother and child.

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    Re: Is the Pro-Choice Argument a Dominatrix Tease?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Pro-choicers will argue the goal of male pro-lifers is to control women.

    This isn't true.

    However, dominatrix pro-choicers have an interest at stake in arguing such.

    If the goal is NOT to control women, that makes pro-life men seem weak and unimpressive.

    Therefore, dominatrix pro-choicers can tease pro-life men into a Cache 22. Either submit to torture, or get ignored.

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    EDIT: Can a mod add "yes" and "no" poll options and repeat the thread title for the poll question? I hit "enter" too early.
    My goal is to protect human life and throw the rabid pro-choice nuts into prison for murder.

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    Re: Is the Pro-Choice Argument a Dominatrix Tease?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Well yea, you can't participate in reality without ideology.
    Thoughts without content are empty, intuitions without concepts are blind. - Kant



    I really don't know where you come up with this from. The pro-lifers I know, myself included, emphasize only having intercourse after marriage. If anything, that ensures the father will socially support the mother and child.
    That doesn't really insure that result. Nor prevents abortions. Check the stats on abortion and married women. And divorce.

    A better rationale is simply to oppose unwanted pregnancy. That would seem to reach your goal more closely. But a woman on birth control having sex for the pleasures of sex and outside of marriage is probably outside other ideologies you have unrelated to abortion.
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    Re: Is the Pro-Choice Argument a Dominatrix Tease?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That doesn't really insure that result. Nor prevents abortions. Check the stats on abortion and married women. And divorce.

    A better rationale is simply to oppose unwanted pregnancy. That would seem to reach your goal more closely. But a woman on birth control having sex for the pleasures of sex and outside of marriage is probably outside other ideologies you have unrelated to abortion.
    Remember, this thread is about control, not pregnancy prevention. A couple can do everything possible to prevent pregnancy, but it has to have a safety net in place for when prevention doesn't work.

    In the case of not pursuing children, marriage is like car insurance. You hope you don't need it, but it's there just in case, ensuring the father stays around. It's nobody's right to have pleasure at the expense of someone else's dignity. This includes the circumstance when we don't know if someone exists or not. I'm not just talking about abortion here, but abortion reiterates the attitude.

    In the case of raising children, the difference between marriage and child support is marriage is an explicit agreement made in advance of experience. Child support treats sex... very superficially, and it controls the father where no unified household is guaranteed. It even creates a distant and insecure environment where the partners involved can't fully enjoy themselves because there's a possible "What if?"...

    ...and social programs? Whether it's health care, education, media regulation, or the military, they're all the equivalent of political cuckolding. Social programs completely teasingly dominate men, expecting men to be sexually hypercompetitive and simply trusting women's judgment. You're damned if you are competitive because you're taking the risk of women raising children or not beyond your control. You're damned if you're not competitive because you pay taxes and adhere to laws which take care of others' children.
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    Re: Is the Pro-Choice Argument a Dominatrix Tease?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbelt View Post
    My goal is to protect human life and throw the rabid pro-choice nuts into prison for murder.
    Thanks for sharing that. Your charm and intellect is duly noted, footnoted.










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