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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Bait thread, with very biased language. Ugh. That's why the abortion forum is one of the many forums I avoid here
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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Bait thread, with very biased language. Ugh. That's why the abortion forum is one of the many forums I avoid here
    bingo. one of the most salient topics... which cannot be discussed with those who insist on seeing any who disagree as not only wrong, but evil.

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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Bait thread, with very biased language. Ugh. That's why the abortion forum is one of the many forums I avoid here
    In case you missed it: This is precisely the point which the OP is making in regards to the many abortion threads on this forum.
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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    bingo. one of the most salient topics... which cannot be discussed with those who insist on seeing any who disagree as not only wrong, but evil.
    I have largely avoided the abortion debates for the same reason. I've tried a few times to salvage a good one with non-biased and respectful posts clearly outlining both sides of the argument to cease the bat**** rantings and accusations. To some people though if you are pro-life you will also be a pro-rapist women hating misogynist with nothing but man driven "control" over a woman's womb along with all the other stupid and illogical labels tacked on by morons.

    To some, every pro-choice person wants babies to be murdered and women to have more abortions while encouraging irresponsible sexual promiscuity along with the other stupid and illogical labels.
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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    bingo. one of the most salient topics... which cannot be discussed with those who insist on seeing any who disagree as not only wrong, but evil.

    Does this post demonstrate a remarkable degree of insight, or is it simply projection?
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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe
    I have largely avoided the abortion debates for the same reason. I've tried a few times to salvage a good one with non-biased and respectful posts clearly outlining both sides of the argument to cease the bat**** rantings and accusations. To some people though if you are pro-life you will also be a pro-rapist women hating misogynist with nothing but man driven "control" over a woman's womb along with all the other stupid and illogical labels tacked on by morons.

    To some, every pro-choice person wants babies to be murdered and women to have more abortions while encouraging irresponsible sexual promiscuity along with the other stupid and illogical labels.
    I tried to make that precise point a while back and was howled down. But you are precisely correct - no matter what you believe on abortion, generally, nobody is in favor of killing babies, and nobody is in favor of enslaving women.

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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Does this post demonstrate a remarkable degree of insight, or is it simply projection?
    must be projection then, because I was specifically thinking of Joko (though there are plenty of others).



    I should probably add an addendum to the thought - all humans are evil in the sense that we make shallow, self-centered, decisions to engage in acts (or refrain from doing so) that we know to be morally wrong. I would just posit that the pro-choice v pro-life argument is an argument over definitions that is sadly linked to powerful emotional topics, and hence becomes instead a screaming match over competing rights.
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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    (I should kill it now because life isn't worth living in mommy/daddy don't want you).
    Nothing wrong about that logic. Children need parents just to survive-- it's not a matter of the lives of children being worse without parents, it's a matter of whom you can force to be a parent when nobody wants to.

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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Nothing wrong about that logic. Children need parents just to survive-- it's not a matter of the lives of children being worse without parents, it's a matter of whom you can force to be a parent when nobody wants to.
    A person should take on all parental rights when someone has sex. An innocent life shouldn't suffer because they were not a planned pregnancy. Should we euthanize children in orphanages who only have the state to raise them?
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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    A person should take on all parental rights when someone has sex.
    So mothers should not have the option of giving up their children for adoption?

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    An innocent life shouldn't suffer because they were not a planned pregnancy.
    And they don't. They just die, long before they have the barest biological capacity for suffering.

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    Should we euthanize children in orphanages who only have the state to raise them?
    No, of course not. They're long past the point of abortion-- so the State's duty in this case is to find parents for them. Of course, the big problem is that nobody within the dead parents' families was willing to raise their children; that's a shameful state of affairs, isn't it?

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