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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    So what your saying, among other things, is 1.) pregnancy can be life threatening and 2.) there was a criminal investigation of the miscarriage to determine if charges should be brought against your wife and/or doctor(s)?
    Yes. So stop worrying about investigations, they already happen, this is by far nothing new.

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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes. So stop worrying about investigations, they already happen, this is by far nothing new.
    I would stop short of claiming such criminal investigations are commonplace. Perhaps in NY, but I am yet convinced there is any sort of mandatory investigation. I doubt a woman in Long Island who miscarried at home would be subject to criminal charges for not reporting it and/or not subjecting herself to a formal medical examination/investigation.

    Again, the majority of miscarriages occur outside a hospital and most miscarriages before 10 weeks occur without the necessity of DNC.

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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    I am forced to assume "Jerry" is not quite who he pretends to be...as the odds of me ever running into an individual this incapable of functional logic, average societal understanding, and basic cognitive ability are likely astronomical in proportion.

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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    I would stop short of claiming such criminal investigations are commonplace. Perhaps in NY, but I am yet convinced there is any sort of mandatory investigation. I doubt a woman in Long Island who miscarried at home would be subject to criminal charges for not reporting it and/or not subjecting herself to a formal medical examination/investigation.

    Again, the majority of miscarriages occur outside a hospital and most miscarriages before 10 weeks occur without the necessity of DNC.
    You're the only person in the world claiming criminal charges or a trial are involved.

    It's a clerk who looks at paperwork. That's it. That's the "investigation". You're stressing about 1 pencil-pusher taking about an hour to look at a few forms. It's beyond trivial.

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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    Most miscarriages take place away from a hospital and most women who miscarry before 10 weeks can do so safely without a DNC or medical intervention.
    That's nice.

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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    I am forced to assume "Jerry" is not quite who he pretends to be...as the odds of me ever running into an individual this incapable of functional logic, average societal understanding, and basic cognitive ability are likely astronomical in proportion.

    Thus I have developed a theory..."Jerry" is an exceptional gamer, and though I am hesitant to state it....he should continue.

    I personally would prefer an illusion of this unfortunate aspect of our little experiment Life), than wondering if I am actually in contact with it.
    I simply hold that a ZEF is a "person" from conseption onward because fertilization is the beginning of the life cycle. Pro-choice has argued in threads before that pro-life is hypocritical when it makes an exception for rape, and I tend to agree.

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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    My apologies to you both...the post however, was mostly a serious commentary.

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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    I don't get it.
    you're an adult grown male. shoving aside 7 year old children to increase the odds of your survival at the cost of their lives isn't "a viable option to consider". It's despicable.

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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    you're an adult grown male. shoving aside 7 year old children to increase the odds of your survival at the cost of their lives isn't "a viable option to consider". It's despicable.
    It was a hypothetical scenario. Tell me how is morally OK to "murder" a human being younger than 7 years old in order to save the life of an adult grown woman but it's not OK to take a child's place on the lifeboat? I was trying to argue to Jerry that on moral grounds, it is essentially the same. I still don't understand how those who claim abortion is "murdering children" can morally and logically make ANY exceptions whether they be for the life of the mother or incest or rape.

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    Re: Where you stand on abortion in relation to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's nice.
    Are you being sarcastic? I was almost quoting word for word a medical paper. I'm not arguing women shouldn't go to the hospital if a miscarriage takes place. I'm only predicting the outcome of an abortion ban that will inevitably see a rise in private in-home abortions that publicly will be recorded as miscarriages. As you probably know, once the public gets word of a sudden rise in tragedies, disasters, or crimes, they usually demand congress pass some sort of law to address the issue. Regulation is inevitable in this case. We ban abortion. Suddenly, women who want to terminate their pregnancy do so in the privacy of their own home and as a result, the instances of "miscarriages" unexpectedly rises. The public wants an investigation and after a couple years, probes indicate the miscarriages are actually abortions. Congress now passes a new place making it illegal to give birth at home and/or miscarry without informing the authorities. There will also likely be provisions within that new bill calling for full medical examinations and possible criminal investigations (I doubt your wife faced a criminal investigation) for each and every woman who miscarries. At that point we can go to the National Archives, remove the constitution, and burn it.

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