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    Are nuclear weapons a deterrent?

    Are nuclear weapons a deterrent?

    It has been said by many that the primary reason the Soviets never used nuclear weapons on us is because they knew we had them too, and would use them on them in retaliation. May be a tad simplistic, kind of a 'nutshell' description, but I think there is merit to that point-of-view.

    We often try to keep other smaller nations from getting nuclear weapons. The stated rationale has been what they might do with them against their neighbors. There might be a grain of truth to that, but I suspect that the real reason we don't want them to have nuclear weapons is because we don't want them to use them against us should we decide to attack them.

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    Re: Are nuclear weapons a deterrent?

    Obviously they are a deterrent.
    However, the potential to attack Iran is not the only reason we do not want Iran to have nuclear weapons. That also is obvious.

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    Re: Are nuclear weapons a deterrent?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Obviously they are a deterrent.
    However, the potential to attack Iran is not the only reason we do not want Iran to have nuclear weapons. That also is obvious.
    Iran is just one of several nations that fit. They're just the current one in the news, is all.

    But that's kind of the point. Iran having nukes would be a deterrent... to us... and we don't want to be deterred (should we choose to want to attack).
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    Re: Are nuclear weapons a deterrent?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Are nuclear weapons a deterrent?

    It has been said by many that the primary reason the Soviets never used nuclear weapons on us is because they knew we had them too, and would use them on them in retaliation. May be a tad simplistic, kind of a 'nutshell' description, but I think there is merit to that point-of-view.

    We often try to keep other smaller nations from getting nuclear weapons. The stated rationale has been what they might do with them against their neighbors. There might be a grain of truth to that, but I suspect that the real reason we don't want them to have nuclear weapons is because we don't want them to use them against us should we decide to attack them.
    Having nuclear weapons and being able to deliver them transcontinentally are two very different animals. We aren't afraid they'll use them on us, we're afraid they'll use them on anyone.
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    Re: Are nuclear weapons a deterrent?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Having nuclear weapons and being able to deliver them transcontinentally are two very different animals. We aren't afraid they'll use them on us, we're afraid they'll use them on anyone.
    Fair point, but since we are in their backyard anyway, it's still a threat to us.

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    Re: Are nuclear weapons a deterrent?

    Ask North Korea. The deterrent factor has certainly worked for them. You may not agree with Iran if they are seeking to produce nuclear arms, but you cannot deny their reasoning for doing so.










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    Re: Are nuclear weapons a deterrent?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Fair point, but since we are in their backyard anyway, it's still a threat to us.
    Indeed and the best thing to do is to get the **** out of the region. We have no business there. They have every right not to want us there. They have ever right to want to be able to defend themselves against us. If the situation was reversed the US would be apoplectic.










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    Re: Are nuclear weapons a deterrent?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Fair point, but since we are in their backyard anyway, it's still a threat to us.
    Only incidentally. If Iraq had used nuclear weapons on US troops, they would have destroyed their own country.

    Now. A suitcase bomb in New York City? Whole different animal.
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    Re: Are nuclear weapons a deterrent?

    As much as it pains me to say this, I am afraid we are going to venture into nuclear hell over Iran. My guess, before June; maybe in March.

    Like it or not, we are inextricably linked to Israel and to Saudi Arabia. Neither nation wants a nuclear Iran. The US doesn't have to initiate the war, we simply need to be in the general area. We have at this point 4 or 5 aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. Some say that 6 is the magic number. In addition, the US is or has made other strategic moves in the region. If someone completely oblivious to the politics of the region were to look at the US build-up and was asked whether we were acting in a peaceful or warlike manner, I think the answer would be obvious.

    If, or when, the fit hits the shan in Iran there is no way in hell the conflict will be contained. Iran won't be a pushover, but the issue is far greater than Iran. We very well may face retaliation from Russia, even China. What will Pakistan do? Would Pakistan take the opportunity to move on Kashmir? What will Turkey do?

    It is my opinion that war with Iran may be the beginning of WWIII and America will not go unharmed.

    Sorry.
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    Re: Are nuclear weapons a deterrent?

    Lets say Iran is making a nuclear bomb (no one knows thats why the UN team is there), lets say they are and they do.. Who gives a ****?


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