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  • COMMUNISTS

    14 35.90%
  • GREENIES

    10 25.64%
  • SOCIALISTS

    10 25.64%
  • ANARCHISTS

    23 58.97%
  • MODERATES

    4 10.26%
  • LIBERTARIANS

    11 28.21%
  • CONSERVATIVES

    7 17.95%
  • SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES

    10 25.64%
  • AUTHORITARIANS

    20 51.28%
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Thread: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

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    Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    We talk about groups being fanatical in their devotion to the Philosophies they claim to espouse. To that end, I'm interested to see which Group(s) MEMBERS you think are or would be most likely to either TAKE A LIFE and/or GIVE UP THEIR LIVES for their cause? Not which Group(s) MEMBERS talk the best game; but which ones you believe would be willing to actually WALK the TALK.

    COMMUNISTS: Actual Marxist/Leninists.
    GREENIES: Ultra-Environmentalists
    SOCIALISTS: Mainstream Socialists
    ANARCHISTS: The Actual Anti-Society/Government Folks
    MODERATES: People Sitting on the Fence
    LIBERTARIANS: The Pro-Freedom & Liberty Crowd
    CONSERVATIVES: Mainstream Conservatives
    SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES: The Right-Wingers
    AUTHORITARIANS: The ULTRA-Conservatives

    Please Select UP TO THREE OPTIONS.
    Last edited by Tigger; 01-29-12 at 10:29 AM.

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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    We talk about groups being fanatical in their devotion to the Philosophies they claim to espouse. To that end, I'm interested to see which Group(s) MEMBERS you think are or would be most likely to either TAKE A LIFE and/or GIVE UP THEIR LIVES for their cause? Not which Group(s) MEMBERS talk the best game; but which ones you believe would be willing to actually WALK the TALK.

    COMMUNISTS: Actual Marxist/Leninists.
    GREENIES: Ultra-Environmentalists
    SOCIALISTS: Mainstream Socialists
    ANARCHISTS: The Actual Anti-Society/Government Folks
    MODERATES: People Sitting on the Fence
    LIBERTARIANS: The Pro-Freedom & Liberty Crowd
    CONSERVATIVES: Mainstream Conservatives
    SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES: The Right-Wingers
    AUTHORITARIANS: The ULTRA-Conservatives

    Please Select UP TO THREE OPTIONS.
    If I had to pick one (and I'm desperate to do so, btw), I'd say anarchists. That group, in my opinion, attracts people who are on the fringes of society and are a little nutty (no, probably a lot nutty) anyway.
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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    We talk about groups being fanatical in their devotion to the Philosophies they claim to espouse. To that end, I'm interested to see which Group(s) MEMBERS you think are or would be most likely to either TAKE A LIFE and/or GIVE UP THEIR LIVES for their cause? Not which Group(s) MEMBERS talk the best game; but which ones you believe would be willing to actually WALK the TALK.

    COMMUNISTS: Actual Marxist/Leninists.
    GREENIES: Ultra-Environmentalists
    SOCIALISTS: Mainstream Socialists
    ANARCHISTS: The Actual Anti-Society/Government Folks
    MODERATES: People Sitting on the Fence
    LIBERTARIANS: The Pro-Freedom & Liberty Crowd
    CONSERVATIVES: Mainstream Conservatives
    SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES: The Right-Wingers
    AUTHORITARIANS: The ULTRA-Conservatives

    Please Select UP TO THREE OPTIONS.
    I chose Greenies because they would die for their cause.
    I chose Libertarians because they seem determined in their beliefs. I think they'd kill.
    I chose Anarchists because they believe an occasional killing/assassination is the only thing they can do that will work. They may be right. It is a strong message.

    This is the edit. I think Conservatives, Social Conservatives and Ultra Conservatives would hire killers. Moderates can't make up their minds to kill or die. Communists got a bad rap from the 1950's, and work within the system.
    Last edited by DaveFagan; 01-29-12 at 11:18 AM.

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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Authoritarians are not 'ultra conservatives' if conservative includes free-market economics. They're pretty much the same thing as communists.

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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    We talk about groups being fanatical in their devotion to the Philosophies they claim to espouse. To that end, I'm interested to see which Group(s) MEMBERS you think are or would be most likely to either TAKE A LIFE and/or GIVE UP THEIR LIVES for their cause? Not which Group(s) MEMBERS talk the best game; but which ones you believe would be willing to actually WALK the TALK.

    COMMUNISTS: Actual Marxist/Leninists.
    GREENIES: Ultra-Environmentalists
    SOCIALISTS: Mainstream Socialists
    ANARCHISTS: The Actual Anti-Society/Government Folks
    MODERATES: People Sitting on the Fence
    LIBERTARIANS: The Pro-Freedom & Liberty Crowd
    CONSERVATIVES: Mainstream Conservatives
    SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES: The Right-Wingers
    AUTHORITARIANS: The ULTRA-Conservatives

    Please Select UP TO THREE OPTIONS.
    I picked all of the above.Each of these groups most likely have a couple of breaking point issues that the government could step on to cause any of these groups to violently rebel.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Greenies don't have the testicular fortitude to take any action outside of recycling and self righteousness, Mainstream Conservatives are all lip service generally no action, and Moderates are too complacent. All other groups have shown the capacity to kill/die for their cause in the past.

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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Authoritarians are not 'ultra conservatives' if conservative includes free-market economics. They're pretty much the same thing as communists.
    I'd say that free market economics would fall under the libertarian platform.

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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I picked all of the above.Each of these groups most likely have a couple of breaking point issues that the government could step on to cause any of these groups to violently rebel.
    James has it right on the money. Being willing to spill blood for a cause is less about the cause and more about the person. There are no doubt people among each of those groups who would kill or die for what they believed in if the situation warranted it. Just like there are members of each of those groups who probably wouldn't do it under any circumstances.
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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Greenies don't have the testicular fortitude to take any action outside of recycling and self righteousness....
    Tell that to ELF and ALF.

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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    James has it right on the money. Being willing to spill blood for a cause is less about the cause and more about the person. There are no doubt people among each of those groups who would kill or die for what they believed in if the situation warranted it. Just like there are members of each of those groups who probably wouldn't do it under any circumstances.
    True. However I would suggest that there are several of those groups where the average member is much more likely to be willing to engage in violent behavior.

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