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  • COMMUNISTS

    14 35.90%
  • GREENIES

    10 25.64%
  • SOCIALISTS

    10 25.64%
  • ANARCHISTS

    23 58.97%
  • MODERATES

    4 10.26%
  • LIBERTARIANS

    11 28.21%
  • CONSERVATIVES

    7 17.95%
  • SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES

    10 25.64%
  • AUTHORITARIANS

    20 51.28%
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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Next to Timothy McVey, the social cons, anti-abortion and anti-gay folk have the highest body count.

    If you count suicides by homosexuals growing up in an intolerant home, the Christian Cons may beat McVey.
    I especially agree with you about anti-gay folk having the highest body count.

    Islam and Homosexuality - WikiIslam

    The following are excerpts on homosexuality, taken from the Saudi Ministry of Education Textbooks for Islamic Studies:
    "Homosexuality is one of the most disgusting sins and greatest crimes.... It is a vile perversion that goes against sound nature, and is one of the most corrupting and hideous sins.... The punishment for homosexuality is death. Both the active and passive participants are to be killed whether or not they have previously had sexual intercourse in the context of a legal marriage.... Some of the companions of the Prophet stated that [the perpetrator] is to be burned with fire. It has also been said that he should be stoned, or thrown from a high place."
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    Whilst homosexuals and human-rights activists are demanding same-sex marriages to be recognized in the West or are busy condemning any sort of criticism (regardless of how legitimate it may be) of Islam, the ignored homosexuals of the Islamic East are left fighting for even the most basic of human rights, and in many cases, their very lives.

    According to the Iranian gay and lesbian rights group Homan, the Iranian government alone has put to death an estimated 4,000 homosexuals since the Islamic revolution of 1979.[18]
    Catawa is my favorite bleeding heart liberal.
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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Capitalists, in order to establish planet wide hegemony.
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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    ELF existed for about five minutes.

    All were caught and turned on their friends.

    A few went to jail.
    The rest of them joined OWS where in Oakland 400 arrests were just made.
    Catawa is my favorite bleeding heart liberal.
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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Why are moderates on the list? What is their cause? Other than claiming to be above politics, I mean.

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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    True. However I would suggest that there are several of those groups where the average member is much more likely to be willing to engage in violent behavior.
    I don't agree with that, as I already pointed out.
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    If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    We talk about groups being fanatical in their devotion to the Philosophies they claim to espouse. To that end, I'm interested to see which Group(s) MEMBERS you think are or would be most likely to either TAKE A LIFE and/or GIVE UP THEIR LIVES for their cause? Not which Group(s) MEMBERS talk the best game; but which ones you believe would be willing to actually WALK the TALK.

    COMMUNISTS: Actual Marxist/Leninists.
    GREENIES: Ultra-Environmentalists
    SOCIALISTS: Mainstream Socialists
    ANARCHISTS: The Actual Anti-Society/Government Folks
    MODERATES: People Sitting on the Fence
    LIBERTARIANS: The Pro-Freedom & Liberty Crowd
    CONSERVATIVES: Mainstream Conservatives
    SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES: The Right-Wingers
    AUTHORITARIANS: The ULTRA-Conservatives

    Please Select UP TO THREE OPTIONS.

    Authoritarians need not be conservatives. They just want to impose control and force their ideology on the population or just plain make themselves powerful - to that end, I think they are the most willing to take lives. History has shown that authoritarian (of all flavours: communists, socialist, fascist, religious, greedy) have shed the most blood.
    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yeah, ELF is like AlQ!

    rollseyes
    Did anyone say that? Ummmm. No.
    The FBI investigates terrorist threats and actions, foreign and domestic, and environmental activists just happen to be on that list, because they have destroyed property and made threats.
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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    How many people have you killed?
    Good question...
    Zero
    None, but I have been mad enough to "kill" a few.
    Tis good that none of these ideologies have "bothered" me.
    If I were my fathers age, say, in Germany during the 30s....then more than likely... death...
    Things are better today, generally.

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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Ooo, scary...

    "bother" like texting in a movie?
    Heavens to Betsy.....no
    But then, no movie theaters have I darkened for ...50 years or so...
    And very few people are this inconsiderate,IMO.

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    Re: Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

    What's really funny about this poll and topic. People in America think they've somehow escaped brainwashing-propaganda tactics by political machines and government.

    It's taken 250 years to divide America into three (3) political countries (Conservative America, Liberal America, and Centralist America)...but they finally have.Which one of those American countries are you willing to die for?

    You really think that only the old Soviet Union, North Korea, China and the like are the masters of mind ****ing their citizens?

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