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  • There should be no inheritance tax of any amount of money or assets.

    84 54.90%
  • The first 5 million dollars should be exempt. After that the tax rate should be 35%.

    21 13.73%
  • The first 5 million dollars should be exempt. After that the tax rate should be 50%.

    12 7.84%
  • The first 1 million should be exempt. After that the rate should be 50%.

    19 12.42%
  • No exempt amount. Tax at 35% from the get-go.

    9 5.88%
  • No exempt amount. Tax at 50% from the get-go.

    1 0.65%
  • Abolish all inheritance. In other words, tax 100%.

    7 4.58%
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So are lots of other things. To elevate defense above any of the rest is silly.

    Its actually the most important government function and the function that the federal government is best able to handle above all other functions or issues

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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Fortunately, we have a Constitution which differs with you.
    which Constitution-the correctly interpreted one based on the founders' intent or the one that FDR's lapdog Justices made up and cemented into the jurisprudential fabric of this nation

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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    But you sidestepped the after effects of some actions, which is why I threw in the buried drum problem. This is the same situation we're facing today and what the Superfund is used for. It's what happens when business is allowed free reign with no controls or over-sight. It doesn't matter what judge hears this case. A dozen children are mentally retarded for life from mercury poisoning. No one can "pay" for that kind of injury and no court can set that wrong to right.

    The protection idea was a simple, easy case to present with obvious and direct dangers. There are many more dangers than that to life and property but you fail to see them or will only act on them after the fact. What you'll end up with will be very much like the world of 1970 with de-forestation caused by acid rain and river water that's no longer drinkable without spending millions to treat it. Consider this. The tobacco companies won hundreds of cases in court, using falsified studies and "experts" that claimed there was no link between cigarette smoking and lung cancer. Eventually that was proved to be the big lie that it was and the tobacco companies made some minor restitution, but I can guarantee for every dollar in settlement money they earned $100. Sure people were stupid to smoke in the first place but, hey, dozens of scientists had testified in hundreds of court cases that smoking was 100% safe!
    All violations of other's property have effects than cannot be reversed. That's why it is beneficial to reduce violations of others' property to the greatest extent possible. Nor can one stop a crime before it happens. All that can be done is to ensure that when a crime is committed, the perpetrator is punished. Catching an punishing a single murderer will not bring the victim back to life. But we do it anyway, because others who might do the same thing need to understand that they will also be punished. Likewise, yes you are right. I could pull up to your yard and dump a barrel of used motor oil on your front yard. Maybe I don't get caught, but if I do, I will be hauled before a judge and punished. This hopefully stops others from doing the same thing.

    I admit you are right that no crime can actually be punished until after it is committed, but we still have to at least attempt to establish laws of justice in which judges can adjudicate the case and mete out the appropriate punishment. It is only the disincentive provided by the fear of punishment that keeps people from infringing on the property of others.

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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Fortunately, we have a Constitution which differs with you.
    So you have no problem violating the life, liberty, and property of some in order to grant benefits to others?

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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    So you have no problem violating the life, liberty, and property of some in order to grant benefits to others?
    Apparently not if it gains the DNC more votes

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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its actually the most important government function and the function that the federal government is best able to handle above all other functions or issues
    Also, because it is the responsibility of the government to protect and defend our life, liberty, and property, it is logically impossible to perform this function while at the same time infringing upon the life, liberty, or property of some citizens in order to benefit others.

    A good analogy might be a doctor. The first rule of doctors is "do no harm". Whatever other goals they have, they must uphold this primary ethic. So what would you think of a doctor who held you down and cut out a kidney, because some other guy is in need of one. The doctor would be doing harm, and violating his primary mission.

    So it is with government. It is the responsibility of government to defend the life, liberty, and property of the citizens. It cannot both fulfill this duty, and also rob peter to pay paul. They are mutually inconsistent acts.

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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its actually the most important government function and the function that the federal government is best able to handle above all other functions or issues
    And you know this bit of undebatable wisdom because.............??????????????
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    Also, because it is the responsibility of the government to protect and defend our life, liberty, and property, it is logically impossible to perform this function while at the same time infringing upon the life, liberty, or property of some citizens in order to benefit others.

    A good analogy might be a doctor. The first rule of doctors is "do no harm". Whatever other goals they have, they must uphold this primary ethic. So what would you think of a doctor who held you down and cut out a kidney, because some other guy is in need of one. The doctor would be doing harm, and violating his primary mission.

    So it is with government. It is the responsibility of government to defend the life, liberty, and property of the citizens. It cannot both fulfill this duty, and also rob peter to pay paul. They are mutually inconsistent acts.
    that is silly. You operate from the false premise that such rights are absolute.
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And you know this bit of undebatable wisdom because.............??????????????
    I was the ranking political science student in my college class. I studied government under one of the true masters-Robert Dahl.

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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    So you have no problem violating the life, liberty, and property of some in order to grant benefits to others?
    Government must carefully balance all rights. There are no absolutes.
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