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  • There should be no inheritance tax of any amount of money or assets.

    84 54.90%
  • The first 5 million dollars should be exempt. After that the tax rate should be 35%.

    21 13.73%
  • The first 5 million dollars should be exempt. After that the tax rate should be 50%.

    12 7.84%
  • The first 1 million should be exempt. After that the rate should be 50%.

    19 12.42%
  • No exempt amount. Tax at 35% from the get-go.

    9 5.88%
  • No exempt amount. Tax at 50% from the get-go.

    1 0.65%
  • Abolish all inheritance. In other words, tax 100%.

    7 4.58%
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Do you see "redistribution" in my quote, anywhere at all? No, you do not. Redistribution of wealth is what the Turtledude refers to as taxation.

    My quote was to indicate the rule of law in this country confirms that taxation is indeed constitutional.


    Glad I could clear up your confusion.
    Cat - to an extent, all taxation has always been a redistribution of wealth in that it takes from one and gives to the many. One cannot have taxes without that feature. So why fight it, why deny it, why pretend that it is wrong when it is one of the fundamental qualities of taxation. And our government could not exist without taxation.
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Do you see "redistribution" in my quote, anywhere at all? No, you do not. Redistribution of wealth is what the Turtledude refers to as taxation.

    My quote was to indicate the rule of law in this country confirms that taxation is indeed constitutional.


    Glad I could clear up your confusion.
    Dude. It's not my "confusion." I don't know how anyone level-headed wouldn't read posts 1067 and 1070 together and not shake their heads in pity for you.
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Funny? - Funny like a clown? Funny as in I amuse you?

    What amuses me is that even now, after several back and forth clarifications, you are still impotent to answer the original challenge about ideology and Obama Care. Instead you prefer to engage in silly nonsense taking umbrage that your comments were not clear enought to continue a debate.

    So now, by all means step up to the plate and show us what you got.


    Go back to the thread you bailed from and answer there, and I'll be more than happy to (not that I hadn't already when you fled).
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    another complete failure and an idiotic assumption on your part. what I want is a system that those who cannot afford what they want don't have the ability to make others pay for their needs without them also paying more
    So you feel you are being held down under the thumb of a bunch of really poor people??? The government provides services that it believes will be of benefit to all sorts of people. I doubt that you get anything less out of a weather report than a family on food stamps, and you probably get more (sort of) out of all these economic numbers that you then confuse into such a bunch of mish-mash ideas and beliefs.

    In any case, we split the tab for all of it, whether we support it all or not. The fact that you seem so resentful of this suggests that if you had back whatever taxes you pay, there are things you need or want that you could spend them on. I'm not in that situation. If there were things I needed or wanted, I would simply go get them, or at least have them brought to me. Taxes are not a part of the picture. They don't impinge on my lifestyle at all.

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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Cat - to an extent, all taxation has always been a redistribution of wealth in that it takes from one and gives to the many. One cannot have taxes without that feature. So why fight it, why deny it, why pretend that it is wrong when it is one of the fundamental qualities of taxation. And our government could not exist without taxation.

    That's one way of looking at it.

    The way I look at it, is that a progressive tax system (authorized under our rule of law) was made less progressive over the last 30 years.
    Some argue that restoring the progressiveness that was cut away over the last 30 years is somehow socialist.

    I maintain that is absurd.
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That's one way of looking at it.

    The way I look at it, is that a progressive tax system (authorized under our rule of law) was made less progressive over the last 30 years.
    Some argue that restoring the progressiveness that was cut away over the last 30 years is somehow socialist.

    I maintain that is absurd.
    You are correct on both counts. We are fast losing progressivity in taxation due to many factors
    1- capital gains discriminatory preferences
    2- protections for millions in inheritance transfers
    3- off shore accounts
    4- accounting gimmicks

    And it is indeed absurd.
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    I see you ignored me on providing proof of your earlier claim of the purpose of society.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    If so, it's very significantly because of just the sort of lame-brained laissez-faire free-market economics that various pseudo-rich people and assorted FOX News watchers tend mindlessly to exalt and venerate.
    Lol, what? In order for something to be causing a harm or a gain it has to be practiced. Nice try, but you fail.

    That's true for most people. Value-added in the public sector that's made available to everybody else free of charge.
    Adding value for nothing is not adding potential and when looking at government additions to the market they have no real potential of growth and when looking at benefits from government given to people that they didn't pay for the potential of those people is lowered not boosted.

    A progressive tax system takes relatively LESS from the poor. They are therefore relatively MORE able to pay for their own stuff. They'd do even better at it if a certain stripe didn't go around trying to undercut their incomes and opportunties all the time.
    That is hack economics that I tire of. Fist, the progressive tax system does not give more potential to the market by simply giving poor people more money while taking more from the top to cover the loses and give benefits to those people. The net benefit is negative not positive. Second, the progressive tax system by design limits growth of the economy and lowers potential of the poor regardless of them getting taxed less than the rich or even getting more back in return from the government. Your hack economics are idiotic.
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    from what source did you get this from. I deny that. the main functions of society are protection from external threats and creating a market system
    Protection from external threats is likely to be BOTH risk-sharing and redistribution of income. Any actual foreign assault will be focussed on a particular area, yet those from other areas will respond as well. And we won't be sending our sick and elderly out there to man the battle lines. We will send the young, the strong, and the brave. They will make the sacrifices, the rest of us will just benefit from them.

    Supporting some form of economic system is typical of a society. It need not however be a market system.

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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    More speculation on your part.
    Which part was speculation, what is says in Article I-Section 8, or that the preponderance of the population was illiterate? Keep in mind that two-thirds of the non-indigenous US population as of July 4, 1776, had arrived in the colonies in a condition of servitude.

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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Those below the poverty level wouldn't be paying taxes, any more than they are currently. Right now, people making less than $50,000 (approximately) have zero liability. And the fact is, any taxes the wealthy pay will always come out of their plenty, while the poor struggle. You haven't noticed anything new at all.
    Really? Let's take a closer look at that. We'll assume your "approximately" is really $40k, which 20% ($10k) less than you quoted. AND let's assume it's "married plus two kids" family. Even at that level, and yes I included an EIC of $1267, that still leaves $1800+ owed in taxes to the Fed.

    Would you care to guess what happens when we increase that income to $50k and with no kids? Now you're up to almost double that amount, $3600 in taxes.

    You must be very rich to think that $1800, let alone $3600, is ZERO. I don't consider that kind of money to be pocket change and I suspect few others do, either.
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