View Poll Results: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

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  • There should be no inheritance tax of any amount of money or assets.

    84 54.90%
  • The first 5 million dollars should be exempt. After that the tax rate should be 35%.

    21 13.73%
  • The first 5 million dollars should be exempt. After that the tax rate should be 50%.

    12 7.84%
  • The first 1 million should be exempt. After that the rate should be 50%.

    19 12.42%
  • No exempt amount. Tax at 35% from the get-go.

    9 5.88%
  • No exempt amount. Tax at 50% from the get-go.

    1 0.65%
  • Abolish all inheritance. In other words, tax 100%.

    7 4.58%
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    More illogical drivel. For the clinton tax system to work we'd need another huge dot com bubble that meant those being taxed more were actually getting more net income. Nice try but your claim is bogus
    There was no dot-com bubble. It's a myth. Like Paul Bunyan. It's an attempt to put lipstick on another pig of corporate and financial fraud and malfeasance. All you had in this era was a rash of rigged IPO's (particularly on the NASDAQ) that ensued almost immediately upon the passage of Gramm-Leach-Bliley, a series of Enron-style accounting frauds and scandals at a handful of well-known firms, some of which were in telecommunications, and a spate of (also NASDAQ-oriented) complete idiots egged on by cable business channels who came to believe that they could actually make their living as "day traders". Meanwhile, Moore's Law continued to operate, the internet continued to mushroom in terms of both breadth and depth, business and personal investment in IT hardware and software continued to explode, and the burgeoning industries of IT maintenance and security continued to create thousands upon thousands of new jobs. The actual dot-com world in fact simply sailed on through the supposed crisis following along the same path it had been on for at least one decade and would continue along for at least another.

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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL! I can't cite a figment of the imagination that you and Turtledude happen to share.
    It was your claim, dude.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1060200068

    If it's a figment of imagination, well, I could have told you that.

    What tax law has been found to be unconstitutional under the rule of law in this country???
    Where did I say anything about tax law? Why do you constantly make things up?
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Funny how you're proving in this thread you don't let something go if you think you can post a winner, yet you were silent elsewhere.

    Funnier still that hey, now you suddenly DO have the responses you said weren't necessary. So why didn't you say it then, and why aren't you saying it there now?

    So go do it if you think you can. My point HERE is made, in spades.
    Funny? - Funny like a clown? Funny as in I amuse you?

    What amuses me is that even now, after several back and forth clarifications, you are still impotent to answer the original challenge about ideology and Obama Care. Instead you prefer to engage in silly nonsense taking umbrage that your comments were not clear enought to continue a debate.

    So now, by all means step up to the plate and show us what you got.
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It was your claim, dude.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1060200068

    If it's a figment of imagination, well, I could have told you that.
    There is nothing in my post about redistribution of wealth, that's Turtledude's claim, dude!



    Where did I say anything about tax law? Why do you constantly make things up?
    Tax law is what we are discussing. Its what the Turtledude refers to as redistribution of wealth.
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    There is nothing in my post about redistribution of wealth, that's Turtledude's claim, dude!
    You are a highly, highly, highly confused individual.
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You are a highly, highly, highly confused individual.
    Sorry, not interested in trading insults with you.
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sorry, not interested in trading insults with you.
    It's not an insult. It's a just a description. To wit, presluc said:

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Strange, I thought "WE THE PEOPLE" was the first words of the preamble to the Contitution of the United States.
    TD's response was:

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    It is-cite me the law review article that claims such a phrase is a code for income redistribution
    To which you answered:

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think the rule of law is more than enough legal position on the matter. Let us know when your case has been successful in the Supreme Court.
    Thus, you said "the rule of law" establishes that "we the people" refers to wealth redistribution.

    My guess is you don't even know this, and you don't have any idea WHAT you responded to. Thus, my description.
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    The system itself actually seems capable on the basis of observations made as recently as the 1990's of being operated to broadly beneficial effect. There came a point there where we changed operators and things the seemed to go straight into the tank in record time. We probably shouldn't have given that guy even one, much less two chances at it, but having got rid of him at last, things do seem to be slowly returning into positive territory.

    By the way, it's a good bet that no more than 50 of the supposed 71,000 pages of the tax code actually apply to you. Taxes in this country are in reality so simple that we allow people themselves to figure out how much they owe and then pay it. The tax code as a whole is meanwhile so complex and broadranging because the economy is that complex and broadranging. There are no pages among the 71,000 that describe the proper tax treatment of a situation that does not at least implicitly exist. Since they simply don't apply to you, the only way these 71,000 pages can be any burden is if you were for some reason looking to purchase a published copy of the entire thing. Otherwise, what's your actual beef?
    Are you seriously defending this System? The tax system doesn't need to be complex.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    The reason that no one seriously even proposes such schemes is that they result in taxes that are not the same at all. Low-income families asked to give up 20% of their income would be sacrificing basics and necessities. High-income families would be sacrificing luxury items or another few thousand dollars parked outside the real economy in some investment account. What actual tax policy people try to do is recognize the concept of tax burden while still appreciating the notion of incentives. Each of these is a complex subject in its own right, but you will never come to an equitable system of any sort as long as you think taking 20% from a low-income family is the same thinsg as taking 20% from a high-income family.
    Those below the poverty level wouldn't be paying taxes, any more than they are currently. Right now, people making less than $50,000 (approximately) have zero liability. And the fact is, any taxes the wealthy pay will always come out of their plenty, while the poor struggle. You haven't noticed anything new at all.
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Those who think that the Constitution does not authorize governmental efforts which result in redistribution of wealth should read this .............. as a start.

    Redistribution of wealth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It's not an insult. It's a just a description. To wit, presluc said:



    TD's response was:



    To which you answered:



    Thus, you said "the rule of law" establishes that "we the people" refers to wealth redistribution.

    My guess is you don't even know this, and you don't have any idea WHAT you responded to. Thus, my description.


    Do you see "redistribution" in my quote, anywhere at all? No, you do not. Redistribution of wealth is what the Turtledude refers to as taxation.

    My quote was to indicate the rule of law in this country confirms that taxation is indeed constitutional.


    Glad I could clear up your confusion.
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