View Poll Results: What is GITMO about?

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  • GITMO is a fine prison.

    26 40.63%
  • GITMO is a fine GULAG.

    10 15.63%
  • The UN is lying.

    23 35.94%
  • GITMO reflects contemporary USA mores.

    21 32.81%
  • GITMO upholds the finest standards of USA Justice.

    21 32.81%
  • GITMO is a continuing embarrassment.

    27 42.19%
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Thread: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    I guess the Guantanamo prison itself is a product of avoiding the enforcement of human rights laws of the US....

    In an oversea prison, the CIA could torture and detain people willingly without worrying about constitutionality...
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Gulag was a Soviet labor camp. I see.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I look at Gitmo as a prisoner of war camp. The fact that we give unlawful combatants the same protections as lawful ones is, in my opinion, a gift.
    The thing is, there indeed ARE folks being held there who aren't combatants at all, and simply picked up on the battlefield for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    That some are held indefinitely without trial or due process is, indeed, an injustice.

    But Guantanamo is merely a prison or a place where these guys are held. It's not the fact that these facilities exist that's the problem, it's how these guys are treated - not really afforded criminal rights, but not really afforded POW rights either.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The thing is, there indeed ARE folks being held there who aren't combatants at all, and simply picked up on the battlefield for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    That some are held indefinitely without trial or due process is, indeed, an injustice.

    But Guantanamo is merely a prison or a place where these guys are held. It's not the fact that these facilities exist that's the problem, it's how these guys are treated - not really afforded criminal rights, but not really afforded POW rights either.
    If the prisoners at Guantanamo were little white girls accused of murder in Italy, more people would probably be against their wrongful imprisonment. However, since a minute percentage of Arabs like to blow themselves up from time to time and take innocents with them, it's only fair we lock up Arabs in general with or without reason.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Now, I don't know if this is at all reasonable of me, but my first thought upon seeing the title was: "**** international law."
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by oliveryty View Post
    I guess the Guantanamo prison itself is a product of avoiding the enforcement of human rights laws of the US....

    In an oversea prison, the CIA could torture and detain people willingly without worrying about constitutionality...
    That is not what it's for, no.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Why is there a new thread about Gitmo now? Obama closed it in his first year as President. I'm sure he did. I mean, he promised.

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    Congress Bars Transfers From Guantanamo Bay - WSJ.com

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    no vote
    other
    IMO, we are confused in this ever changing world.
    The 9-11 attack was political, as well as criminal.
    Osama should never have been killed
    rather a life sentence in a pig-sty (sorry pigs - life is rough, we do not get to chose our neighbors.

    I do not think that the heart and soul of any man can ever be changed, if that is what our intent is..
    If our intent is to assure the well-being of our people, we should try to really(respect) get along with others...

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    You know as well as I do that our President is not our dictator, that Congress runs things(more or less)..

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    You know as well as I do that our President is not our dictator, that Congress runs things(more or less)..
    Yes, I do. (Well, it's kinda' sorta' shared) The person I answered with that link apparently does not.
    Last edited by MoSurveyor; 01-31-12 at 01:44 PM.

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