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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Other than scale, how is bombing a house and surrounding area with conventional bombs killing everyone present, guilty and innocent, any more moral than using a tactical nuke?

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    The scale is what makes the difference. One is considered collateral damage or acceptable losses, this goes off the belief that it is sometimes better that a few innocents die than thousands or millions of innocents. The other could be considered either outright genocide or attempted genocide. Genocide is not acceptable to anyone except wacko's.

    Other than scale there is no difference.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The scale is what makes the difference. One is considered collateral damage or acceptable losses, this goes off the belief that it is sometimes better that a few innocents die than thousands or millions of innocents. The other could be considered either outright genocide or attempted genocide. Genocide is not acceptable to anyone except wacko's.
    So you are saying trying to destroy a terrorist group is genocide?

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    gen·o·cide   
    noun
    the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group
    I don't see terrorist in that list.

    Other than scale there is no difference.
    That's what I said... isn't it.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I look at Gitmo as a prisoner of war camp. The fact that we give unlawful combatants the same protections as lawful ones is, in my opinion, a gift.
    worse. POW's have rights. those who fight while wearing civilian garb put civilians at risk - and thus do not.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    So you are saying trying to destroy a terrorist group is genocide?

    I don't see terrorist in that list.
    Reading comprehension problem or something? If you used a nuke on a city you're killing a whole hell of a lot more than just terrorists. Thats where the genocide comes in. Duh.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    worse. POW's have rights. those who fight while wearing civilian garb put civilians at risk - and thus do not.
    You are correct except that it is assumed that all those arrested are terrorists and that is simply not true. Many of the individuals renditioned to Guantanamo were mistakenly arrested or arrested on false information or arrested because reward money drew their names fromm often unscrupulous individuals. You know. You offer a reward for turning in terrorists and the guy collects by turning in the neighbor who is bonking his wife.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    You are correct except that it is assumed that all those arrested are terrorists and that is simply not true. Many of the individuals renditioned to Guantanamo were mistakenly arrested or arrested on false information or arrested because reward money drew their names fromm often unscrupulous individuals. You know. You offer a reward for turning in terrorists and the guy collects by turning in the neighbor who is bonking his wife.
    Which is why 77% of the detainees have been released.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    GITMO is a gross violation of US law, let alone international. Torture is illegal, whether we do it here or in Cuba.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    GITMO is a gross violation of US law, let alone international. Torture is illegal, whether we do it here or in Cuba.
    What "torture" is happening in Cuba?
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote"Which is why 77% of the detainees have been released."
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    What "torture" is happening in Cuba?
    77% innocent and released without charges.

    The torture is called waterboarding. Been in the NEWS since GWShiiteForBrains decided to torture the 77% of inmates who were mistakes and 23% that might not be mistakes. Just to be certain. You know, Club Guantanamo, the tropical resort torture center, er I mean Detention Center. It's OK in Iraq also, unless your names are England and Graner.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Quote"Which is why 77% of the detainees have been released."


    77% innocent and released without charges.

    The torture is called waterboarding. Been in the NEWS since GWShiiteForBrains decided to torture the 77% of inmates who were mistakes and 23% that might not be mistakes. Just to be certain. You know, Club Guantanamo, the tropical resort torture center, er I mean Detention Center. It's OK in Iraq also, unless your names are England and Graner.
    No waterboarding happened in Cuba. And it was only done to three (3) people at all, let alone the "77%". And none has happened since 2003.

    This kind of misinformed blather helps no one's cause.
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