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  • GITMO is a fine prison.

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  • GITMO is a fine GULAG.

    10 15.63%
  • The UN is lying.

    23 35.94%
  • GITMO reflects contemporary USA mores.

    21 32.81%
  • GITMO upholds the finest standards of USA Justice.

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  • GITMO is a continuing embarrassment.

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Thread: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    GITMO is passe. Why all the concern over GITMO while the black ops prisons in Bahgram and other parts of the world have been expanded? Oh...thats right...we dont really need to talk about such things now that Bush isnt president. Now its just a wise president fighting terror, and...son of a gun...terrorists dont actually deserve constitutional rights and due process after all. Huh...who knew it would be so hard enforcing US laws on citizens of one country captured in another country while engaging in terror related activities.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    GITMO is passe. Why all the concern over GITMO while the black ops prisons in Bahgram and other parts of the world have been expanded? Oh...thats right...we dont really need to talk about such things now that Bush isnt president. Now its just a wise president fighting terror, and...son of a gun...terrorists dont actually deserve constitutional rights and due process after all. Huh...who knew it would be so hard enforcing US laws on citizens of one country captured in another country while engaging in terror related activities.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I don't understand why we can't try these people, and just get rid of GITMO.
    If it were me, I'd send them all back to where they came from, and next time, take no prisoners. If you're gonna fight a war, then fight the war to kill. If you're not, then get the hell out.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If it were me, I'd send them all back to where they came from, and next time, take no prisoners. If you're gonna fight a war, then fight the war to kill. If you're not, then get the hell out.
    So...

    You condone murdering the enemy after they've surrendered?

    Or do you think we should leave before they have a chance to surrender?
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If it were me, I'd send them all back to where they came from, and next time, take no prisoners. If you're gonna fight a war, then fight the war to kill. If you're not, then get the hell out.
    If they surrender we capture them. If they have committed crimes, then we try them, in a court of laws. Because we're supposed to be the good guys, remember.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If it were me, I'd send them all back to where they came from, and next time, take no prisoners. If you're gonna fight a war, then fight the war to kill. If you're not, then get the hell out.
    A bit easier said than done, considering we signed this little thing called the Geneva Convention. Taking no prisoners kinda involves killing the dude the first time you shoot him, which is no guarantee. Or shooting dudes after they've raised the white flag and put their hands up.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    A bit easier said than done, considering we signed this little thing called the Geneva Convention. Taking no prisoners kinda involves killing the dude the first time you shoot him, which is no guarantee. Or shooting dudes after they've raised the white flag and put their hands up.
    They would quickly learn that raising a white flag and putting their hands up are bad ideas.

    Obama has this all figured out. Using pilotless aircraft to bomb houses, killing everyone there, including innocent women and children, in the hope of maybe getting some terrorist leader eliminates the problem of what to do with the prisioners.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    A bit easier said than done, considering we signed this little thing called the Geneva Convention. Taking no prisoners kinda involves killing the dude the first time you shoot him, which is no guarantee. Or shooting dudes after they've raised the white flag and put their hands up.
    The Geneva Convention also says torture is illegal, but we do that. When our country does something as policy, it is us/we who are responsible. We voted in the perpetrators. There is a disconnect in the chain of responsibility and noone is ever prosecuted. That's part of the "change" I expected from Obama. I'm disappointed.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If it were me, I'd send them all back to where they came from, and next time, take no prisoners. If you're gonna fight a war, then fight the war to kill. If you're not, then get the hell out.
    If we're going to do this then we might as well make it simple as hell. Use a nuke. That will get the worlds attention right away and at the same time let everyone know that if they F*** with the US then there WILL be consequences.

    If you're not going to use a nuke however then taking prisoners is a natural part of any war. There were very few armies in history that did not take prisoners. And usually those that lead them did not last long.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    If we're going to do this then we might as well make it simple as hell. Use a nuke. That will get the worlds attention right away and at the same time let everyone know that if they F*** with the US then there WILL be consequences.

    If you're not going to use a nuke however then taking prisoners is a natural part of any war. There were very few armies in history that did not take prisoners. And usually those that lead them did not last long.
    Other than scale, how is bombing a house and surrounding area with conventional bombs killing everyone present, guilty and innocent, any more moral than using a tactical nuke?

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