View Poll Results: What is GITMO about?

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  • GITMO is a fine prison.

    26 40.63%
  • GITMO is a fine GULAG.

    10 15.63%
  • The UN is lying.

    23 35.94%
  • GITMO reflects contemporary USA mores.

    21 32.81%
  • GITMO upholds the finest standards of USA Justice.

    21 32.81%
  • GITMO is a continuing embarrassment.

    27 42.19%
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Thread: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    I will ask you also. Why would giving them a trial be so difficult/objectionable that you would prefer to kill innocent people? Organised crime in the U.S has killed far more people, and yet even during the 1930s they where still even trials before being killed. Christ even Eichmann got a fair trial, why don't these people deserve one?
    Eichmann was not an unlawful combatant. He was a war criminal.

    You have said this twice now. Do you believe that murdering people is government policy?

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    They may be de facto prisoners of war, but they aren't called that. The government made up a new name, "enemy combatants", meaning that they aren't covered by the Geneva Accords.
    If you changed that to unlawful combatant or unlawful enemy combatant I could agree with you. They are not covered by the Geneva Conventions. Too bad.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Eichmann was not an unlawful combatant. He was a war criminal.

    You have said this twice now. Do you believe that murdering people is government policy?
    I corrected myself. I meant imprisoned. And those who are innocent are not combatants, 'lawful' nor not, given that they are, in fact innocent. Its a pretty ****ed up perspective that gives a mass murderer more rights then a non-combatant civilian.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Though the point that everyone seems to be missing is that alot of them are neither, because they are in fact completely innocent

    Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison | World news | The Guardian
    Your story may have some truths in it but it might not. For example there is this tidbit, "More than two years after President Obama ordered the closure of the prison, 172 are still held there."

    If the one term Marxist president Barack Hussein Obama had ordered the facility closed it would, in fact, be closed. Your story may be a propaganda piece.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Vietnam
    That is partly true. We were fighting against North Viet-nam, a nation state. What is the equivalent in this war, Iran? If so you have a nice parallel. Let's get some regime change in Iran right after regime change here.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Your story may have some truths in it but it might not. For example there is this tidbit, "More than two years after President Obama ordered the closure of the prison, 172 are still held there."

    If the one term Marxist president Barack Hussein Obama had ordered the facility closed it would, in fact, be closed. Your story may be a propaganda piece.
    Reprieve is a very well respected organisation, I don't believe they have ever been called into question as far as facts are concerned. The man being interviewed has worked for many of the detainiess and their families. And we know that many of these people (for examples those that have been released after years of torture) where/are innocent because the U.S government has admitted this was the case.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    It is soft and squishy in details. It is hard to argue against soft and squishy.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It is soft and squishy in details. It is hard to argue against soft and squishy.
    You deny that innocent people have been imprisoned?

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    I corrected myself. I meant imprisoned. And those who are innocent are not combatants, 'lawful' nor not, given that they are, in fact innocent. Its a pretty ****ed up perspective that gives a mass murderer more rights then a non-combatant civilian.
    What ever happened to Adolph Eichmann? Didn't guys like you protest?

    We detained tens of thousands. There are a few hundred that remain in custody. That is tough for the ones still in custody. Having been in the business they are being kept for a reason. If there is no reason we let them go.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    You deny that innocent people have been imprisoned?
    No. I deny that the Guardian got the story right.

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