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  • GITMO is a fine prison.

    26 40.63%
  • GITMO is a fine GULAG.

    10 15.63%
  • The UN is lying.

    23 35.94%
  • GITMO reflects contemporary USA mores.

    21 32.81%
  • GITMO upholds the finest standards of USA Justice.

    21 32.81%
  • GITMO is a continuing embarrassment.

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Thread: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As we are not at war with a country, how would define an unlawful combatant?
    Fortunately I do not need to. It is defined already.

    Delawar was not an unlawful combatant. He was the victim of a murder.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Awesome. Let us know how it turns out. Oh. Germany doesn't want them. They are way too dangerous. How do you pronounce kumbaya in German?
    What exactly is your point? Because, you know, I don't see any.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Fortunately I do not need to. It is defined already.

    Delawar was not an unlawful combatant. He was the victim of a murder.
    But you see, you miss the point. He was not the only one we've msitakenly took. That's why laws are important. Just saying you can do anything because everyone is evil opens the door to do evil.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You said you were happy to stop national socialism in WWII. Since fascism was a big part of that war I wanted to see if you were as consistent with fighting and defeating of fascist movements. Islam and its fascists are as dangerous and national socialists and Italian fascists.

    Murdering Delawar, despite the allegations of people trying to cover their crime, was not and is not US policy. I know that you believe that it is.
    I have no trouble with war, when neccessary. Iraq was not necessary and was not to stop anything really. Instead, it helped our enemies.

    But, what we are debating is torture.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have no trouble with war, when neccessary. Iraq was not necessary and was not to stop anything really. Instead, it helped our enemies.

    But, what we are debating is torture.
    I thought it was Guantanamo.

    Iraq was defying the no-fly zone. Hussein did not live up to the cease-fire agreement. Technically we just continued Gulf War I when he failed to meet his obligations.

    We shall have to agree to disagree.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have no trouble with war, when neccessary. Iraq was not necessary and was not to stop anything really. Instead, it helped our enemies.
    Only a fool believes that. We have roughly 25 million free Iraqis as a counterpoise to an Islamofascist state, Iran. If the one term Marxist had been a strategist he could have brokered an arrangement where we kept large forces in Iraq in the north and southeast parts of Iraq to counter Iran. But he is a community organizer, a rabble rouser, an agitator. He is not a deep thinker.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Only a fool believes that. We have roughly 25 million free Iraqis as a counterpoise to an Islamofascist state, Iran. If the one term Marxist had been a strategist he could have brokered an arrangement where we kept large forces in Iraq in the north and southeast parts of Iraq to counter Iran. But he is a community organizer, a rabble rouser, an agitator. He is not a deep thinker.
    Avoidance tactic #63.

    No, Iraq was meaningless. Almost as meaningless as you incessent inability to know the definitions of words. You really should learn what a Marxist really is.


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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I thought it was Guantanamo.

    Iraq was defying the no-fly zone. Hussein did not live up to the cease-fire agreement. Technically we just continued Gulf War I when he failed to meet his obligations.

    We shall have to agree to disagree.
    A no fly zone whose legality itself was being questioned. But that is neither here nor there. The fact remains he was Iraq was a UN effort and not soley a US effort. Only the UN could sanction action. Also, Iraq did not met the level of threat that justified the expendature. Iraq cost us far more, on all fronts, than we gained.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    WOWWW! Such ad obvious strawman. I'm impressed at that boldness with which you throw that out.

    I'm sorry, but torturing and killing innocent taxi drivers does not fight Islamofascist, or anything else for that matter. All it does is destroy our world standing, lower us closer to their level, and weaken all moral authority that we have.
    If he was indeed innocent__IF?__Then he is what the military calls collateral damage.

    It is WAR and unfortunately that's the nature of the beast, so man up and deal with it.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    If he was indeed innocent__IF?__Then he is what the military calls collateral damage.

    It is WAR and unfortunately that's the nature of the beast, so man up and deal with it.
    That is, indeed, the nature of war, and has been ever since Og knocked Grog on the head and took over his cave.

    So, what's up with all the nonsense about fighting for someone else's freedom, or winning hearts and minds?
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