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  • The UN is lying.

    23 35.94%
  • GITMO reflects contemporary USA mores.

    21 32.81%
  • GITMO upholds the finest standards of USA Justice.

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Thread: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    but then they would be covered by the Geneva Accords.
    Which would gain them what, that they don't have?
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Which would gain them what, that they don't have?
    I can't imagine.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I can't imagine.

    Those were prisoners of war (i.e., they had the status).

    And that didn't happen in Cuba.

    And it was a crime for which US soldiers (including the one in the picture) were punished, having not one thing to do with the prisoners' legal status.

    This issue is contentious enough without confusing it by using examples which do not apply.

    So, do you have an actual answer, or don't you?
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Already did, champ. Already did.



    You can go back and see for yourself, but considering I already told you to do so twice, and you still have no idea what I actually said (or simply keep lying about it), I'm thinking you're never going to.
    I repeat:

    I guess you have to say this. If it helps, good for you. But, you are nto addressing what was said or explaining anything.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That's actually the legal standard of almost every country except for the United States. Much like with the Metric System and soccer, we're the outlier.

    Not that it has anything to do with the Geneva Conventions or prisoners captured on the battlefield, much as some of you are so uninformed as to keep thinking.

    Not, again, that anyone has a prayer of getting through to you on that.
    It is still inaccurate to say they are all captured on the battlefield and are combatants. We know for a fact that at least a few were not. How many? We don't really know. But we certainly know the cab driver we killed was not a combatant.

    Perhaps it is you who is not being gotten through to? How knows?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Only until there is a "speedy" trial by a jury of the suspect's peers.

    It's that not depriving people of life, liberty or property without due process idea that was written into the Constitution, the one that we seem willing to overlook today.
    Exactly. We either value this or we don't.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I repeat:

    I guess you have to say this. If it helps, good for you. But, you are nto addressing what was said or explaining anything.
    Don't know why you think I'd respond to this "repeat" any differently than I did before.

    If you've got nothing new, why bother? I've got better things to do than repeat myself again. If you don't, that's your own deal.
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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That's actually the legal standard of almost every country except for the United States. Much like with the Metric System and soccer, we're the outlier.
    I just want to be clear, do you favor thier value or ours? Should we change, or try to live by our ideals?

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Don't know why you think I'd respond to this "repeat" any differently than I did before.

    If you've got nothing new, why bother? I've got better things to do than repeat myself again. If you don't, that's your own deal.
    I don't expect different. But this is your dodge, not mine.

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    Re: United Nations: U.S. Operation Of Gitmo Is ‘Clear Breach Of International Law’

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    but then they would be covered by the Geneva Accords.
    Ummm, I don't think so unless I missed Al Qaeda signing that document also.
    I've already looked, but you can read it for yourself:

    ARTICLE 2

    In addition to the provisions which shall be implemented in peace time, the present Convention shall apply to all cases of declared war or of any other armed conflict which may arise between two or more of the High Contracting Parties, even if the state of war is not recognized by one of them.

    The Convention shall also apply to all cases of partial or total occupation of the territory of a High Contracting Party, even if the said occupation meets with no armed resistance.

    Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations. They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof.
    (emphasis added)

    The Avalon Project : Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War; August 12, 1949
    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/lawwar.asp

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