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    Re: The sanctity of marriage and Newt!

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    In real terms I do think that serial monogamy is the new social norm. The low percentage of people that have good lifelong marriages, as opposed to enduring lifelong marriage, is possibly so low that it might even be a good norm. Regardless, I think it is the new social norm - and that is excluding the HUGE number of serial monogamy co-habitations never obtaining marriage licenses.ve

    Since YOU linked "social conservative" to "Jesus condemning marriage," to be legit you need to attach your link to Gingrich ever quoting Jesus on marriage in relation to gays, since that is your assertion of his hypocrisy.
    So let met get this straight...since I was angry at social conservatives trying to nominate an adulterer I now have to link Gingrich quoting Jesus?

    Your logic sucks.
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    Re: The sanctity of marriage and Newt!

    Newt Gingrich was appropriately named after a slimey aquatic amphibian. Anything he says or does should be treated accordingly.

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    Re: The sanctity of marriage and Newt!

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So let met get this straight...since I was angry at social conservatives trying to nominate an adulterer I now have to link Gingrich quoting Jesus?

    Your logic sucks.
    Well that is your logic, not mine. And it is your own definition of being a social conservative. So prove it's an accurate one. I seem to remember that divorce rates are higher among conservatives than liberals and Bible Belt states tend to have the highest divorce rates. (but lower stats on unmarried cohabitation).

    He's not like Ron Paul, if that's your point.

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    Re: The sanctity of marriage and Newt!

    He doesn't have much personal authority on the matter. Would I like more public emphasis on the institution of marriage and its benefits to society? Yes. Would I like to exclude gays from that discussion? Absolutely not. I support gay marriage.
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    Re: The sanctity of marriage and Newt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Newt is against Gay marriage and has been very vocal about this throughout his campagin, he was also a big suppoerter of prop 8. My questions to you is should someone that is on his 3rd marriage and has committed adultery be allowed to lecture the general public on how marriage is a " Sacred tradition" and prevent other Americans from being married. When it comes to this paticular issue is the man being very hypocritical and should maybe keep his mouth shut and stop judging people on their life choices? ( we all know how he hates the media judging his) or is he right to still defend marriage from the gay community and keep it "sacred"
    I am against legalized gay marriage,domestic partnerships,civil unions or whatever other paper coated term there is for marriage.So I am not some pro-gay marriage loon jumping on some lets bash those against gay marriage band wagon. I do believe a man who has been married multiple times has no room to comment on the sanctity of marriage. Because if marriage was so sacred to him he wouldn't be getting a divorce every-time he felt like having a new flavor of the month. If the accusations of his bitter ex-wife are true then he is just a bigger hypocrite.
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    Re: The sanctity of marriage and Newt!

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Well that is your logic, not mine. And it is your own definition of being a social conservative. So prove it's an accurate one. I seem to remember that divorce rates are higher among conservatives than liberals and Bible Belt states tend to have the highest divorce rates. (but lower stats on unmarried cohabitation).

    He's not like Ron Paul, if that's your point.
    I think you have distorted my logic in your own head. The only thing I accused Newt of is being an adulterer. I didn't even claim he was a social conservative.
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    Re: The sanctity of marriage and Newt!

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I think you have distorted my logic in your own head. The only thing I accused Newt of is being an adulterer. I didn't even claim he was a social conservative.
    He WAS an adulterer. Let's at least get the verb right.

    Since I suspect about everyone stole something in their life, thus everyone is a thief and, accordingly, never ever should hold public office because obviously thieves should not hold public office. And theft is far more relevant to government position than adultery is.

    Obama used cocaine, a felony. Clearly he should NEVER have been allowed to be president - which is relevant as the president does have authorities concerning drug laws - and definitely a cocaine user shouldn't hold a position concerning drug laws. For your wording, you would agree to the wording of "President Obama IS a cocaine user," right?

    And certainly NO Democrat would vote for a cocaine user except those who argue cocaine should be legalized.
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    Re: The sanctity of marriage and Newt!

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    He WAS an adulterer. Let's at least get the verb right.

    Since I suspect about everyone stole something in their life, thus everyone is a thief and, accordingly, never ever should hold public office because obviously thieves should not hold public office. And theft is far more relevant to government position than adultery is.

    Obama used cocaine, a felony. Clearly he should NEVER have been allowed to be president - which is relevant as the president does have authorities concerning drug laws - and definitely a cocaine user shouldn't hold a position concerning drug laws. For your wording, you would agree to the wording of "President Obama IS a cocaine user," right?

    And certainly NO Democrat would vote for a cocaine user except those who argue cocaine should be legalized.
    He is having sex with someone who isn't his first wife. By Biblical standards that makes him an adulterer unless his first wife cheated on him or died.

    And I don't like Obama and didn't vote for him so you are crawling up the wrong tree with that one.
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    Re: The sanctity of marriage and Newt!

    Newt (and others) that oppose gay marriage have yet to demonstrate why it is harmful to anyone. How can two people's relationship harm others? Besides making the "homophobic" people feel queesy, it doesn't have any effect on anyone else whatsoever... (I dislike the term "homophobic", as it implies fear - when the more accurate emotion would be disgust [i.e. bigotry])

    Most rest their case on biblical doctrines, but forget completely that this isn't a Christian nation - it is a nation largely composed of Christians, but the government of the US doesn't and can't support the establishment of any religion. Drafting laws based on religious ideologies would be supporting the establishment of religion (in this case, Christianity and Islam [though only by coincidence]).

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    Re: The sanctity of marriage and Newt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbelt View Post
    the question doesn't ask should he be allowed to, it asks should he stay off the topic of marriage.
    Yes it does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    My questions to you is should someone that is on his 3rd marriage and has committed adultery be allowed to lecture the general public on how marriage is a " Sacred tradition"
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