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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    making a copy of music, videos, etc. for personal use is little harm or foul, using any copy, legal or otherwise, to make money is where the issue gets important.
    Disagree. Regardless of the morality of IP laws, this behavior is, in effect, depriving someone, somewhere, of income that they would otherwise be receiving if you had obeyed the law - as you have used their creation. You have used a good/service and it is only fair that you pay for that usage in some form. It doesn't matter whether or not it's for "personal use," even if you don't decide to copy and redistribute it.

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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It seems to me that the author has absolutely no understanding of plagiarism. That's one of the weakest arguments I've ever read.
    Odd given the fact that he writes a lot and uses a plethora of references when applicable. Why would a plagiarist use references in their published works?

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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    The Tuesday Podcast: The Patent War : Planet Money : NPR

    Here is an example of where the practical implementation of IP law is causing one industry to not live up to its full potential.

    Like i said - not black-and-white at all.

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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Just a warning, you are about to have a herd of Libertarians swoop in on this thread and tear your OP to pieces.
    This made me laugh

    Honestly, though, I am for respecting that someone put hard work into something and has a right to get paid for that work. I think the way they go about it and how much they charge is begging to be robbed by people who feel differently.

    I think the internet and digital issues make it a complicated challenge to address. Some people are going with theft, but I would rather the true free market answer to lousy policies were used. In this case, the true method would be giving the option of Netflix, Hulu, Google TV and more causing a huge decline in cable subscriptions and movie sales.

    EDIT: As to OP, I think it would be marginally good for the economy and if you combine that with what I said above, you get my vote.
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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Did you actually read it? It's ****ing retarded. You don't get to claim ownership of a poem simply because you memorized it. Furthermore you don't get to sell the poem or steal the book it came in even if you memorized it. You don't even get to make your own book and put the poem inside of it because you memorized it. In essence the link you posted is the very reason why I can't take ANY argument against IP seriously. Because it makes no ****ing sense nor does it actually take into consideration the debate at hand.
    You missed the point of where Long states that once you buy a book, poem, or piece of music, you own it. That the author has received their money, and therefore that particular book, poem, or music of is not their anymore. It is yours, and you have the right to trade it or give it away.

    In addition, works of arts, music, inventions, and literature are works built upon themselves and are never are original. To claim that you have an original idea and therefore a monopoly on a piece of thought is completely absurd.

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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    This made me laugh

    Honestly, though, I am for respecting that someone put hard work into something and has a right to get paid for that work. I think the way they go about it and how much they charge is begging to be robbed by people who feel differently.
    Aren't you a Libertarian? Don't you believe in voting with your wallet? If something is too expensive at Target do you steal it? No? Why not?
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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    This made me laugh

    Honestly, though, I am for respecting that someone put hard work into something and has a right to get paid for that work. I think the way they go about it and how much they charge is begging to be robbed by people who feel differently.

    I think the internet and digital issues make it a complicated challenge to address. Some people are going with theft, but I would rather the true free market answer to lousy policies were used. In this case, the true method would be giving the option of Netflix, Hulu, Google TV and more causing a huge decline in cable subscriptions and movie sales.

    EDIT: As to OP, I think it would be marginally good for the economy and if you combine that with what I said above, you get my vote.
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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    I don't think it would make a difference to the overall economy - it would make a huge difference to the entertainment industry's profits.

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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by Antiderivative View Post
    You missed the point of where Long states that once you buy a book, poem, or piece of music, you own it. That the author has received their money, and therefore that particular book, poem, or music of is not their anymore. It is yours, and you have the right to trade it or give it away.

    In addition, works of arts, music, inventions, and literature are works built upon themselves and are never are original. To claim that you have an original idea and therefore a monopoly on a piece of thought is completely absurd.
    Does the word plagiarism not mean anything to you? At all? Please try that with a college professor? Try to pass of Nietche's work as your own. Considering you supposedly own it, there should be no harm and no foul correct?
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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Just a warning, you are about to have a herd of Libertarians swoop in on this thread and tear your OP to pieces.
    why, I think a legitimate function of government is to protect property rights and a copyright is a form of property right

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