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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Yeah, when's the last time you heard of anyone except a State employee or a Union employee getting a pension? You're supposed to invest for your retirement.
    LOL! You've apparently been working for the wrong companies. Even Hewlett-Packard at its most ****ed-up had a pension plan. As does Boeing, Toyota, Apple, Microsoft... oh, hell, the list is too long to mention. Enron had a pension plan... which is what Madoff raided. So yeah, a big chunk of America's "middle class", or what's left of it, has a pension plan.

    If you leave your heirs a small business, they still have to keep producing goods or services to make money. What do your heirs do to earn your royalties?
    I had already answered that question. Once the publisher stops publishing my work, which my heirs had inherited, the copyrights will be fully returned to my heirs. For my heirs to make any money on my product which they inherited, they would have to find a way to publish, distribute, or outright sell my product, which they inherited. If they just keep the copyright and do nothing, that's their choice. They wouldn't profit from my product, which they inherited... but nobody else would be able to profit from it either.

    It really galls you that if I died tomorrow, my kids would be able to cash royalty checks big enough for them to fill their cars with gasoline for a few weeks, doesn't it?

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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's exactly true. The fact is, those 10,000 people have NEVER bought the media they've used. They listened to the radio, they borrowed music from friends, they copied it onto cassette, etc. It's just much easier today and much more visible, you don't have to know someone who has the CD, it's just available online. There aren't really any more people today not buying media than ever didn't buy it before, we've just become a much more entitlement-happy society where people think they deserve things just for waking up in the morning.

    It's just not so.
    I remember growing up as a kid a lot of movies we watched was what someone else recorded onto VHS.We were poor, didn't have cable, and we had a relative that did have cable.I am not sure if my mom bought the VCR on law away or bought it used or if someone gave her a old vcr.
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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    You do realize we can embed copyright in the data for images.....

    And if I find you using an image for profit (that includes promotion) I made... I'm going to get a little pissed.

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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    You do realize we can embed copyright in the data for images.....

    And if I find you using an image for profit (that includes promotion) I made... I'm going to get a little pissed.
    What happens to that embed copyright if that image is converted to another format, altered or if some does ctrl + Print Scrn and paste on onto windows paint?
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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What happens to that embed copyright if that image is converted to another format or altered?
    The embedded copyright stays with it. As far as I know. I'm sure there is a way to subvert it though.

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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    What if no one pirated anything on the Internet? Everyone only watched movies they paid to see, only used non-freeware software that they've paid for, only downloaded copyrighted music after legitimately paying for it, etc. In other words, everyone adhered strictly to copyright law. Would that help the economy?

    Note: This question is only about copyrighted material. Some software is freeware; some books and movies have expired copyrights, etc. Those materials are legal to freely distribute. This thread is not about those.
    While I'm not sure that people should get to copy anything they want; I don't think that more people respecting copyright laws would have any significant impact on the aggregated economy.
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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I remember growing up as a kid a lot of movies we watched was what someone else recorded onto VHS.We were poor, didn't have cable, and we had a relative that did have cable.I am not sure if my mom bought the VCR on law away or bought it used or if someone gave her a old vcr.
    My grandmother, who was bedridden, didn't have cable. My mother used to tape hours and hours of movies off HBO for her so she didn't go crazy. I see nothing whatsoever wrong with that.
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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The embedded copyright stays with it. As far as I know. I'm sure there is a way to subvert it though.
    Do you have an image with an embedded copyright and a means of detecting it so we can test this out?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    My grandmother, who was bedridden, didn't have cable. My mother used to tape hours and hours of movies off HBO for her so she didn't go crazy. I see nothing whatsoever wrong with that.
    Amazing how this kind of copying has been going on for a couple decades and there wasn't this big push to crack down on the VCR recorder and VCR tape manufactures.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: The economy would be better if more people respected copyright law. Agree/disagr

    Can't vote because the two choices are worthless.

    No I don't think our economy would be much better. No, just because its the digital age people shouldn't just download whatever they want.

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