View Poll Results: How long should a copyright last before the I.P. becomes public domain?

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  • There should be no such thing as a copyright.

    6 5.71%
  • 1-20 years after intellectual property is created

    19 18.10%
  • 21-40 years after intellectual property is created

    2 1.90%
  • 41-60 years after intellectual property is created

    1 0.95%
  • The copyright should last as long as the creator of the intellectual property is still alive

    24 22.86%
  • 1-20 after the original creator of the intellectual property has died

    14 13.33%
  • 21-40 after the original creator of the intellectual property has died

    3 2.86%
  • 41-60 after the original creator of the intellectual property has died

    3 2.86%
  • The copyright on the intellectual property should last forever (a perpetual copyright.)

    20 19.05%
  • other idea or I do not know(please specify)

    13 12.38%
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    How long should a copyright last before it becomes public domain?

    Anytime the issue of online piracy comes up so does the issue of copyrights.So I decided to make a poll.

    How long should a copyright last on I.P.before it becomes public domain?

    There should be no such thing as a copyright.
    1-20 years after intellectual property is created
    21-40 years after intellectual property is created
    41-60 years after intellectual property is created
    The copyright should last as long as the creator of the intellectual property is still alive
    1-20 after the original creator of the intellectual property has died
    21-40 after the original creator of the intellectual property has died
    41-60 after the original creator of the intellectual property has died
    The copyright on the intellectual property should last forever (a perpetual copyright.)
    other/I do not know
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    Re: How long should a copyright last before it becomes public domain?

    I can see arguments all the way from 20 years to the life of the creator.
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    Re: How long should a copyright last before it becomes public domain?

    Less than 10 years.
    There is no reason why a patent generally gets 20 years or less and other forms of IP get life + 70 years.
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    Re: How long should a copyright last before it becomes public domain?

    There are too many variables to assign a time limit universally.

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    Re: How long should a copyright last before it becomes public domain?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    There are too many variables to assign a time limit universally.
    What kind of variables?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: How long should a copyright last before it becomes public domain?

    I'm more concerned with how enforcement of copyright law is carried out. In particular, I am extremely disturbed by how corporations can sick the government on internet sites that host millions of users, confiscating their domain and their hard assets; yet when individuals claim copyright infringement or stolen ideas against corporations, they almost never stand a chance.

    The people of the U.S. should demand that corporate personhood be revoked. It was decided by five supreme court judges, not the legislature, and certainly not the people. Copyright law does need reform, but what needs reform even more is the way copyright law has been abused by conglomerates that are controlling the government and restricting freedom of speech.

    I have already decided that if SOPA and PIPA pass, I will not be returning to live in the United States after the next work term and my family will remain ex-pat.

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    Re: How long should a copyright last before it becomes public domain?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What kind of variables?
    Artwork as opposed to inventions or living organisms Etc.

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    Re: How long should a copyright last before it becomes public domain?

    Like Temporal, I am far more concerned about the implementation. But that's for another thread.

    Copyright tries to ensure the creator has some means of getting paid, and choosing the presentation of the work. If we are assuming that the implementation of this is reasonable, I think it should last for the life of the creator. Not a day more, not a day less.

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    Re: How long should a copyright last before it becomes public domain?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Artwork as opposed to inventions or living organisms Etc.
    Why should artwork be treated different than an invention?
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    Re: How long should a copyright last before it becomes public domain?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Less than 10 years.
    There is no reason why a patent generally gets 20 years or less and other forms of IP get life + 70 years.
    This is a fair point, and I can't argue against it, but I generally feel "1-20 yrs after death of the creator" is fine. With some nuances...

    - If the creator is a business, then the business could conceivably keep it forever if the business lasts forever. Even that has some nuances, in my mind...

    - The human creator would legally be the "co-owner" if created on company time... and no ability to sign away fully to the company through coercion as is often the case now with patents.

    - If co-owned, upon death of the person(s)/co-owner(s), full ownership would revert to the company after the estate has its 20 year co-ownership period expire.

    - The company could keep it forever through mergers and acquisitions, and it could sell the copyright, but if outright sold, a strict 20 yr limit would be in place for the new buyer.

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