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  • Yes. If they call you a homophobe you should be able to comment on their morals/etc.

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  • No, they shouldn't return fire because they deserve it.

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  • How about we show some respect and NOT smear eachother?

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Thread: Slander in Politics

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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Question: If from the socially-liberal pov it's acceptable to call names like "homophobe" because it's "true," then from the target's pov, wouldn't his/her insults be true as well? To me, I'd rather we be able to discuss Christianity and morals and verses without name-calling/targeting the person. My cousin's gay, yet somehow we manage to have respectful and interesting discussions about it and other morals in society.

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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Question: If from the socially-liberal pov it's acceptable to call names like "homophobe" because it's "true," then from the target's pov, wouldn't his/her insults be true as well? To me, I'd rather we be able to discuss Christianity and morals and verses without name-calling/targeting the person. My cousin's gay, yet somehow we manage to have respectful and interesting discussions about it and other morals in society.
    Well, I'm sure if you refrain from judging him an immoral, damned abomination, I'm sure he'll refrain from calling you a homophobe. Win-win, no?
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well, I'm sure if you refrain from judging him an immoral, damned abomination, I'm sure he'll refrain from calling you a homophobe. Win-win, no?
    This is actually funny because it's very true. When people make posts that call homosexuals an abomination, immoral and other bad things they act amazed that people take offense to it.
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well, I'm sure if you refrain from judging him an immoral, damned abomination, I'm sure he'll refrain from calling you a homophobe. Win-win, no?
    Well, he's that one word tolerant liberals should be: "understanding." He understands my pov, and doesn't get pissed off/malicious over it. In fact, he's respectful, too, and doesn't resort to insults.

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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Well, he's that one word tolerant liberals should be: "understanding." He understands my pov, and doesn't get pissed off/malicious over it. In fact, he's respectful, too, and doesn't resort to insults.
    He's probably understanding because he knows you and can weigh that into any debate. On a political debate board if you call someone an abomination or an act they perform an abomination they do not know you and take that statement at face value. That you are calling them an abomination.
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    He's probably understanding because he knows you and can weigh that into any debate. On a political debate board if you call someone an abomination or an act they perform an abomination they do not know you and take that statement at face value. That you are calling them an abomination.
    That part may be true, but it's a bit bigger than that. He understands traditional Christianity and understands that pov on homosexuality. However, he doesn't care because he doesn't have a religion. Just as I try to give respect to people with sharply differing views and TRY to not insult them, my cousin does the same to me, thus I respect him even more. It is because of him that I try to respect every ideologue here.

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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    That part may be true, but it's a bit bigger than that. He understands traditional Christianity and understands that pov on homosexuality. However, he doesn't care because he doesn't have a religion. Just as I try to give respect to people with sharply differing views and TRY to not insult them, my cousin does the same to me, thus I respect him even more. It is because of him that I try to respect every ideologue here.
    If I called you narrowminded and say that your adherence to bronze age religion is irrational would you be offended? If that was my view and I stated it would you just consider it a personal view or would you consider it an attack on something fundamental and important to you?
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    In fact, he's respectful, too, and doesn't resort to insults.
    How about you? Respectful of his sexual orientation?
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Question: If from the socially-liberal pov it's acceptable to call names like "homophobe" because it's "true," then from the target's pov, wouldn't his/her insults be true as well? To me, I'd rather we be able to discuss Christianity and morals and verses without name-calling/targeting the person. My cousin's gay, yet somehow we manage to have respectful and interesting discussions about it and other morals in society.
    Not really, seeing as judgments about morality and immorality are subjective in this case.

    I mean, you could respond and call them immoral, but as it is opinion that's not based upon any objective fact, it really doesn't hold a lot of weight.

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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    This is a two road street.
    Never seen one of those.
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