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Thread: Slander in Politics

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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I answered about my sex life. I said I'm an unmarried traditional Christian.
    That's not an answer to my questions.

    He should have to answer it because he made the assertion.
    What assertion? I'm simply responding to your assumption that sex lives are other peoples' business. I didn't challenge that with any assertion.

    Tell me why I shouldn't be asking you nosy question about where you stick your penis, or would like to. Tell me.
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    What arguments have been given? You gave no arguments, you simply made further assertions. To prove that Christians are bigots, or something similar, you simply asserted they had no right to have their opinions about gay marriage and similar enshrined in law. This is not an argument.
    I didn't assert that.

    I simply asked you about YOUR sex life so I can form an opinion about it, like you do with gays.

    You would be up in arms if I eventually tried to justify my assertion homosexuality was immoral with the further assertion it was unnatural.
    No I wouldn't. I'd simply ask you what unnatural acts you engage in, like oral or anal sex, and whether you think they should be banned among heteros, and whether you've ever contemplated the fact that the number of incidents of sodomy among heteros exceeds those among homos simply because there are so many more heteros. And stuff like that.

    Removable Mind gave an argument and I praised him for it and liked his post. No one else gave arguments; just stating it is none of your business what people's private sex lives are is a further assertion and not an argument. You really have to understand the difference between just making brief, perfunctory and question begging assertions and actually making arguments if you wish to debate.
    See, the thing is, you're the one making the assumption that it IS your business what people's private sex lives are. You see that, right? You've made no argument for why that's true in the first place.

    So your choices are to:

    1. Make an argument for why someone else's sex life is any of your damn business.
    2. Say that you no longer think it's your business and stop trying to interfere with it.

    And if you choose 1, then you should have no problem with me making YOUR sex life my business and answering my questions in detail.



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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That's not an answer to my questions.



    What assertion? I'm simply responding to your assumption that sex lives are other peoples' business. I didn't challenge that with any assertion.

    Tell me why I shouldn't be asking you nosy question about where you stick your penis, or would like to. Tell me.
    Try and keep up, I never made that assumption. You made the assertion they weren't, I asked you to prove it. What you are doing is refusing to back up your assertion and instead asking me to prove the contrary position. This is obviously an unacceptable way to debate.
    Last edited by Wessexman; 01-25-12 at 06:35 PM.
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I didn't assert that.

    I simply asked you about YOUR sex life so I can form an opinion about it, like you do with gays.
    When did I do this in this thread? It was yolu who made the assumption and then tried to back it up by asking me to disprove it, and in a very childish way.

    See, the thing is, you're the one making the assumption that it IS your business what people's private sex lives are. You see that, right? You've made no argument for why that's true in the first place.
    When did I do this in this thread?

    I'm not really offering my own arguments, just critiquing others.
    No, either you are not paying enough attention to what is going on in the the thread, or you are trolling, because clearly I made no such argument.
    Last edited by Wessexman; 01-25-12 at 06:36 PM.
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Try and keep up, I never made that assumption.
    Of course you did.

    It's your ENTIRE PREMISE.
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    When did I do this in this thread?
    It's your entire argument. You think you get to tell people how they can live based on what kind of sex they have. Duh.
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It's your entire argument. You think you get to tell people how they can live based on what kind of sex they have. Duh.
    When? Show me when in this thread I did that.

    My entire argument has just been critiquing others arguments.
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    When? Show me when in this thread I did that.

    My entire argument has just been critiquing others arguments.
    Do you oppose gay marriage? Or call for regulation of homosexuality?
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Do you oppose gay marriage? Or call for regulation of homosexuality?
    I do not have to answer these questions. As I said I have only been critiquing the arguments of others, I have offered none of my own in this thread.
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    Re: Slander in Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Of course you did.

    It's your ENTIRE PREMISE.
    Please show me when I made this argument? Please show me when I made much of any argument in this thread besides critiquing those of others. How can I have a premise when I do not make an argument?
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