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Do you support the Space Program?

There were clear advantages and reasons for moving to the new world and im yet to hear a similar argument for space, they had a clear goal when they set out for the new world but we do not. Yeh we can put a base on the moon and maybe visit Mars but then what?

At one time the developed world didn't know the new world existed. That is why they called it the NEW world. It could have been a barren wasteland for all they knew.
 
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It should be cut, but not completely abolished. We should take space exploration very seriously. Not only does it give us a greater understanding of our natural world, but humans will eventually have to leave the Earth if we want to survive as a species - if that is, we last that long.
 
At one time the developed world didn't know the new world existed. That is why they called it the NEW world. It could have been a barren wasteland for all they knew.
I seem to remember(though history isn't my strongest subject) from history classes that DeGarmo, Columbus, etc. all had the chief concern of falling off the "flat earth's" surface. We know there aren't suitable atmospheres outside of Earth within our reachable limits, but we theorize that it's possible to terrafarm a "close enough" planet to colonize. I think there is plenty of merit in seeing how far we can take our existence, not just within Earth's borders.
 
The ending of the shuttle program has been in the works for awhile.

But yes...we do need a space program. There's tons of technologies that have had a major impact on civilian goods and companies that have spun off from the program.

Also....rather than just a cost benefit argument of the shuttle program....it is a defining feature of humanity to explore and push our boundries.
 
NASA is good for the economy. But I guess thats not in the sermon at church or something?

NASA - A NASA-Industry Team Effort

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Creating a next-generation space transportation system is an undertaking of astronomical proportions. The Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle (MPCV) design team has incorporated cutting-edge technology garnered through collaborative efforts with every NASA center and hundreds of industry experts across the country.

The MPCV Program Office, located at Houston's Johnson Space Center, is leading this historic development effort. As the home of America's Astronaut Corps and Mission Control, the center is responsible for the MPCV's crew and service modules, crew training, flight operations, spacesuits and mockup facilities.

Glenn Research Center in Cleveland, Ohio, is a partner in the development of the MPCV crew and service modules and spacecraft adapter, and has reconditioned an existing facility to support the entire suite of environmental qualification tests for the integrated MPCV vehicle.

Known for its expertise in testing and launch systems, Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, in partnership with Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, is leading development of the MPCV launch abort system. The newly renovated Operations and Checkout facility will host the manufacture and assembly of the MPCV spacecraft on site at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. With new renovations underway to create a 21st century spaceport, Kennedy will take the lead for the MPCV 's pre-flight processing and launch operations.

On the west coast, Dryden Flight Research Center in Edwards, California, leads the MPCV's flight test vehicle integration and operations and coordinates with White Sands Test Facility on the design, construction and management for the launch and ground facilities at White Sands Missile Range, near Las Cruces, New Mexico.

Engineers at Ames Research Center in Moffett, California, conduct wind tunnel tests to simulate various launch abort conditions the spacecraft might encounter, and performs testing of the MPCV heatshield in the Ames arc jet facility.

NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility in New Orleans, Louisiana, has been instrumental in fabricating and constructing the MPCV spacecraft test vehicle to be used in ground and flight test operations.
 
I seem to remember(though history isn't my strongest subject) from history classes that DeGarmo, Columbus, etc. all had the chief concern of falling off the "flat earth's" surface. We know there aren't suitable atmospheres outside of Earth within our reachable limits, but we theorize that it's possible to terrafarm a "close enough" planet to colonize. I think there is plenty of merit in seeing how far we can take our existence, not just within Earth's borders.

Actually, that's a myth started by an inaccurate history book published in the 19th or 20th century. Columbus knew the earth was round. What his sailors were afraid of was of getting so far out that they could not make it back.
 
Actually, that's a myth started by an inaccurate history book published in the 19th or 20th century. Columbus knew the earth was round. What his sailors were afraid of was of getting so far out that they could not make it back.
Actually there was never any proof that the crew was afraid of anything. But yea by the time that Columbus sailed it was common knowledge that the earth was round. But churches have always not been much into common sense.
 
Even though our shuttle program is gone for now thanks to Obama, NASA still survives and could some day be revived. Do you think it's necessary to be taking tax dollars and massive resources to make space missions, or do you think it's a waste of money and time?

Personally I hope to see the shuttle program revived after this great recession and then maybe we can start creating something on the moon and explore other planets.

Edit - my bad I forgot to click the poll part of the thread, maybe a moderater can fix this into a poll of yes or no

There's a lot we can do in space, there's even more we can do on earth. If the goal at any point is actual space exploration, no single nation alone can accomplish it. It would take the collective of the industrialized world to accomplish.
 
Actually, that's a myth started by an inaccurate history book published in the 19th or 20th century. Columbus knew the earth was round. What his sailors were afraid of was of getting so far out that they could not make it back.
Fair enough. When I was in school the books were saying that it was still a flat earth mentality. The point that they ventured into the unknown still stands.
 
Explore the oceans ?
A resounding YES!
I also believe that we should learn about and discover ourselves.
We have humanity itself to work on.
Outer space can wait.

No it can't. We need to get out there and start doing Space 1999 by 2030.
 
Is there any way to non-arbitrarily decide how much money should be spent on NASA? For instance, is each dollar that is spent there best served there, or should it instead be allocated to cancer research? Genome sequencing? Pharmaceutical testing? Water cleanup? New housing? Food? How can you determine this without a market in a non-arbitrary manner?
 
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