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    Re: Do you support the Space Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Like the New World in the 1600's, Space is the new frontier. Those nations that explore it, exploit its resources and (eventually) establish colonies there will flourish and prosper.... those who ignore it will wither and fall into the dustbin of history, like the nations that failed to expand into what came to be called The Americas.


    I support NASA, though I think it needs to be drastically de-bureaucratized.

    ah yes the "New world" where there is no food, water or breathable air! You would be a fool not to go...
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    Re: Do you support the Space Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    expanding into lands on our own planet is a lot different to opening a BK on the moon or whatever the absurd idea they have right now!
    It seems that way to us, because of the ease with which we can explore our planet. The challenges of sailing away into the unknown share many similarities and will require similar leaps of ingenuity that can only be explored when we challenge ourselves to brave the unknown, experience it, and learn from it.
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    Re: Do you support the Space Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    It seems that way to us, because of the ease with which we can explore our planet. The challenges of sailing away into the unknown share many similarities and will require similar leaps of ingenuity that can only be explored when we challenge ourselves to brave the unknown, experience it, and learn from it.
    There were clear advantages and reasons for moving to the new world and im yet to hear a similar argument for space, they had a clear goal when they set out for the new world but we do not. Yeh we can put a base on the moon and maybe visit Mars but then what?

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    Re: Do you support the Space Program?

    I know, let's go find some new planet to fook up. I vote we stay here and treat this one right, until then we have no business on any other planet.

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    Re: Do you support the Space Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I know, let's go find some new planet to fook up. I vote we stay here and treat this one right, until then we have no business on any other planet.
    Planets are a finite resource. Eventually they will be destroyed with or without us. May as well use our only advantage as a species and exploit the resources present for our own gain. It's how we got to where we are, posting on internet message boards.
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    Re: Do you support the Space Program?

    Aside from finding natural resources, physical exploration of space is a waste of time. Space is not the final frontier, human consciousness is. Once consciousness has opened to a certain level, we and our technology will be much better, and we will be able to do anything. Until then, we are just wasting huge numbers of fossil fuels to explore a vacuum at a snail's pace.

    I would much rather see humans use their genius and limited resource to solve the crises that face the current and upcoming generations. When humanity is uplifted, we will see space in a whole different way.

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    Re: Do you support the Space Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Aside from finding natural resources, physical exploration of space is a waste of time. Space is not the final frontier, human consciousness is. Once consciousness has opened to a certain level, we and our technology will be much better, and we will be able to do anything. Until then, we are just wasting huge numbers of fossil fuels to explore a vacuum at a snail's pace.

    I would much rather see humans use their genius and limited resource to solve the crises that face the current and upcoming generations. When humanity is uplifted, we will see space in a whole different way.


    Yeah, when the moon is in the Seventh House, and Jupiter aligns with Mars, and the Age of Aquarius and all that kum-bah-ya stuff.

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    Re: Do you support the Space Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yeah, when the moon is in the Seventh House, and Jupiter aligns with Mars, and the Age of Aquarius and all that kum-bah-ya stuff.
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    Re: Do you support the Space Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    There were clear advantages and reasons for moving to the new world and im yet to hear a similar argument for space, they had a clear goal when they set out for the new world but we do not. Yeh we can put a base on the moon and maybe visit Mars but then what?
    If we had a base on the moon where people could stay for extended periods, we would be able to do a lot of scientific research that could not be done with the short missions we did there. We could learn the effect on the human body of extended living in 1/6th gravity. We could mine the moon's surface and learn more about its composition. We would find out things about the moon's formation that we don't know now. Really what it offers us is just more knowledge. It's not a practical place for large numbers of human settlers, at least it isn't at this point in time. Same thing with Mars. However, Mars is much, much tougher to get a human to. There's a strong argument for only sending probes to Mars because we can learn so much from them without the need to support human life on the long trip there and back.

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    Re: Do you support the Space Program?

    Its weird when people talk about NASA as if its dead or on the back burner just because we retired the shuttles. Meanwhile NASA has many major missions going as we speak.

    One thing that a lot of people do not seem to understand is the the space shuttle was only designed as an low Earth orbiter. Yes it got (hopefully safely) humans into orbit but thats all it could do.
    Everytime the shuttle took off pieces of insulation broke off. Just by sheer luck we didnt loose more shuttles than we did. There are definitely better ways of getting into orbit.

    But NASA is farming out the mundane job of orbiting to private sources to make way for something better. Deep space is much more exciting and challenging than just circling the planet in sort of space. The Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle (MPCV) or as its called Orion spaceship is already being built. The space program is far from dead or stagnant.

    Go check it out
    NASA - Orion Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle


    the Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle (MPCV) video

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