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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I hope you remember that the next time you need one of them to deal with a broken pipe or something similar in your home. I'd suggest telling them all about that before they do the work.
    I don't really talk to the help. Do you?
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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Are either of you plumbers? If so then yes, you aimed low in life. Sorry to be the first to break it to you. There's nothing wrong with the profession itself. However, I have higher ambitions not only for myself but also for my children. If that's how you feed yourselves, please by any means pumpkins, however don't expect me to act like it's anything more than the kind of employment people who don't aim too high in life end up with.
    Bet you'll think more of plumbers when you're kneed-deep in crap someday and you need one to fix your leak.

    Oh, and the average income of a plumber is $49K, which is right at the median income of the U.S.
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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't really talk to the help. Do you?
    You're smart to keep your mouth shut when you're being smug and arrogant. People like you who yap too much, except on anonymous boards, tend to have really expensive problems with their pipes.
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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Bet you'll think more of plumbers when you're kneed-deep in crap someday and you need one to fix your leak.

    Oh, and the average income of a plumber is $49K, which is right at the median income of the U.S.
    Lol is that supposed to mean something to me? Unlike a certain lawyer on these boards, I don't really feel the need to plaster my income for all to see. However, if that plumber saved up every paycheck and didn't pay a single dollar in taxes, his $49K would pay for around 1/10th of the property that I own in St. Maarten (that's an island in the Caribbean). I won't even go into how much my house in Canada is worth.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You're smart to keep your mouth shut when you're being smug and arrogant. People like you who yap too much, except on anonymous boards, tend to have really expensive problems with their pipes.
    Are you a plumber? I'm sorry to hear you aimed so low in life.
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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol is that supposed to mean something to me? Unlike a certain lawyer on these boards, I don't really feel the need to plaster my income for all to see.
    It means that plumbers are not "aiming low." They make more than half of Americans do.

    However, if that plumber saved up every paycheck and didn't pay a single dollar in taxes, his $49K would pay for around 1/10th of the property that I own in St. Maarten (that's an island in the Caribbean).
    Wait, you were just bashing somebody for bragging about their income, right?

    I don't won't even go into how much my house in Canada is worth.
    We're all very impressed.

    Are you a plumber? I'm sorry to hear you aimed so low in life.
    No, I make more than plumbers do. Still, I did aim higher in life than you did - I aimed for not being a sanctimonious arrogant asshole. Not sure if I made it, but that was my goal.
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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't really talk to the help. Do you?
    Yes, I do. In fact I go out of my way to do so, and to ensure that when they do work for me, that the experience is as positive as possible. Over the years it has payed of in spades, including getting my electricity back within 48 hours after the December 2008 Ice Storm here in Massachusetts; and having a plumber inform me of a potentially very expensive repair that was likely going to be coming up that he was able to take care of for much less while he had a bathroom wall open.

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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It means that plumbers are not "aiming low." They make more than half of Americans do.
    Yes and a farmer in Ghana makes more than a beggar in Nigeria. Your point is what? That making $49K a year(maybe) puts you in the range of high professional aspirations?

    Wait, you were just bashing somebody for bragging about their income, right?
    You brought up a plumber's income. I told you mine is much bigger because I aimed higher in life. If that's "bragging" you have a seriously skewed perception of the verb "to brag".

    We're all very impressed.
    Don't really care either way.

    No, I make more than plumbers do. Still, I did aim higher in life than you did - I aimed for not being a sanctimonious arrogant asshole. Not sure if I made it, but that was my goal.
    Aww did I hurt your plumber feelings? Do you need a tissue for those pipe works I feel coming? Also "sanctimonious" is making a show of being morally superior to others. I'm not morally superior to anyone. Professionally superior than a plumber or whatever other blue collar job it is you have? You betcha.
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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Bet you'll think more of plumbers when you're kneed-deep in crap someday and you need one to fix your leak.

    Oh, and the average income of a plumber is $49K, which is right at the median income of the U.S.
    There's a plumber who hangs out at the dive bar I go to near my apartment who makes more than I do, and I'm a lawyer (that probably won't be true five years from now, but that's another story). Granted he was smart and savvy enough to also invest in residential real estate in San Francisco, but still. The point here is, of course, that being a plumber doesn't necessary mean "aiming low." There are tons of professionals and academics who make less than people who unclog toilets for a living.

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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes and a farmer in Ghana makes more than a beggar in Nigeria. Your point is what? That making $49K a year(maybe) puts you in the range of high professional aspirations?
    My point, which I already made, was that "aiming low" is not an accurate description for plumbers. You're smart, you can read.

    You brought up a plumber's income. I told you mine is much bigger because I aimed higher in life. If that's "bragging" you have a seriously skewed perception of the verb "to brag".
    No, that's not the part where you bragged.

    Don't really care either way.
    You care deeply. That's why you're so desperate to tell us about the homes you own and how you aimed higher and how awesome you are. You need approval badly.

    Aww did I hurt your plumber feelings? Do you need a tissue for those pipe works I feel coming?
    I'm not a plumber. You having reading problems again?

    Also "sanctimonious" is making a show of being morally superior to others. I'm not morally superior to anyone. Professionally superior than a plumber or whatever other blue collar job it is you have? You betcha.
    Whatever you say.
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