View Poll Results: Should “equal opportunity” = free (gov funded) college to those who can complete it?

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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I don't think there's any doubt by people even remotely in the know that there's money to be had for college if you really want it.

    The people who say "college is too expensive" or "I can't afford it" are the people who don't look seriously into it, or people who equate sheepskins to elitism or snobbery. It gives them something to discuss with the deli or electronics department at Wal-mart.
    go back to 1964, my senior year in High School....IIRC, there was precious little college aid available to the poor. I wasn't eligible for any scholarships, my parents didn't care, likewise my teachers and school counselor didn't know I existed....
    the military was my only option, at that time it was either join and have SOME choice, or be drafted and have no choice....
    Later generations have had it easy.....no draft, pell grants, student loan programs.....to have it this easy and not take advantage of it is stupid.
    After serving in the Navy, I had the GI Bill, but I also had job and family responsibilities. I did 8 years of night classes, half time on the GI bill.
    For those in HS today, try and get into college while still young. It makes life easier in the long run...
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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Obviously what I said is inapplicable 50 years ago, but there is a huge movement of kids today who say it and are dead wrong. Back before the 80s, college was mostly for rich folks who were going to party for 4 years before being nepotized into some position of power. Today is not the same.

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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Obviously what I said is inapplicable 50 years ago, but there is a huge movement of kids today who say it and are dead wrong. Back before the 80s, college was mostly for rich folks who were going to party for 4 years before being nepotized into some position of power. Today is not the same.
    Twice I have had to practically bite my tongue while hearing people like the rich folks you describe tell me that if people only did what they did, they could be just as successful. One of those times we were in mixed company, so I kept quiet. The other time I was able to tell him that he probably would be in the same situation I was, or lower, given the same starting point I had.
    But, long story short, there is usually a way to get a good paying job if you actually make the effort required. College is nice, trade schools can be just as nice, even self study can work. Even OJT can work, if you just make the effort. and military tech schools are top notch....
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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Oh yeah. If you have on your resume that you graduated from, say, the Naval Academy's university in Annapolis, you're in damn good shape. It's one of the most respected degrees in the nation.

    Of course, it's not my business degree from the Ross school at U of M. I'd take it over a heap of Harvard MBAs trying to tell me the way to go.

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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Sad that so many people said no to gov. funded college to those who can handle the coursework. Other countries do it... I wonder why we are so closed minded? Education really can have a profound impact on a person. Just think of all the informed voters and citizens if it were done properly!

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