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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't really talk to the help. Do you?
    I always try to be socialble to the help. My yard man, my plumber, my attorney, cab drivers, the pool boy, even the mail man when I see him. I'm nice to everyone.

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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol is that supposed to mean something to me? Unlike a certain lawyer on these boards, I don't really feel the need to plaster my income for all to see. However, if that plumber saved up every paycheck and didn't pay a single dollar in taxes, his $49K would pay for around 1/10th of the property that I own in St. Maarten (that's an island in the Caribbean). I won't even go into how much my house in Canada is worth.



    Are you a plumber? I'm sorry to hear you aimed so low in life.
    I like to see that you are differentiating yourself from TD, but you are being even a bigger jerk than him. And this is coming from someone who AGREES with your post about having low expectations.

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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    No,the last thing we need is more pseudo-intellectual early 20's "psychologists" who can successfully diagnose all of society's ills in a single semester.

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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think there should be affordable college. It is a violation of equal opportunity to make colleges so expensive that only kids with rich parents can attend.
    But they aren't. There are all sorts of opportunities for deserving students. (You have to research them sometimes, but they're there.) I don't mean those who think they're deserving; I mean those who demonstrably really are. In fact, the genuinely outstanding students don't pay anything; the institution pays them.

    I happen to have been very fortunate. My parents could well afford to pay for my education, and they did. I took a lot for granted when I was younger and had to learn the hard way, but I have seen for myself that those who are invested in their own education and willing to work to pay for it or at least help pay for it themselves value it more.

    BTW, I put my own money where my mouth is. I told them that if they really wanted to attend college, they could continue to live at home and pay for it themselves. I intended, after they had demonstrated to be their serious intentions measured in academic performance for a few semesters to begin kicking in. But neither of them was actually interested enough in continuing their education to work for it.

    So I saved money, they too may learn the hard way, and they aren't sucking the lifeforce out of academia the way thousands and thousands of college students who don't want to be there and don't have a single cell of intellectual curiosity are doing.

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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    But that's not the case here. A capable young person who works and achieves scholastic excellence (or even in sports) can get a free education.
    In addition to scholastic excellence and sports, a lot of colleges offer scholarships for leadership. My son also got a scholarship for something weird - music skills.

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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    No,the last thing we need is more pseudo-intellectual early 20's "psychologists" who can successfully diagnose all of society's ills in a single semester.
    What we need is some real psychologists who can diagnose all of society's ills, then get those who need it to seek psychiatric care.
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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    In addition to scholastic excellence and sports, a lot of colleges offer scholarships for leadership. My son also got a scholarship for something weird - music skills.
    The gal who does my hair has a daughter who is currently a senior in high school. She plays golf, and is really good at it. Last year, she had colleges all over the country trying to sign her up. She could have had a full scholarship to several big name colleges, but she wanted to be closer to home, so she signed up for a full scholarship program at North Tx State.
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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Still standing is the point that it makes no sense to have redistributive government programs "incentivizing" something where natural incentive already exists.
    It's not about incentivizing, it's about making those who already have the incentive the ability to act on it.
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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The gal who does my hair has a daughter who is currently a senior in high school. She plays golf, and is really good at it. Last year, she had colleges all over the country trying to sign her up. She could have had a full scholarship to several big name colleges, but she wanted to be closer to home, so she signed up for a full scholarship program at North Tx State.
    Yeah, so if you want to be a doctor or whatevber, you need to play good sports! That's a really rational education system we have there.
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    Re: Should “equal opportunity” mean free college?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I always try to be socialble to the help. My yard man, my plumber, my attorney, cab drivers, the pool boy, even the mail man when I see him. I'm nice to everyone.
    Stop doing that. It makes people aim too low in life. Treat them all like crap so they'll all try to be doctors and stockbrokers. We don't need plumbers anyway. What do they do that's useful?
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