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Obama 2nd term!

How will you view Obama if he gets a 2nd term?

  • Respect him more

    Votes: 7 38.9%

  • hate him even more than you already do

    Votes: 2 11.1%

  • Give him a chance to see if he can change your opinion

    Votes: 6 33.3%

  • wont care either way

    Votes: 3 16.7%
  • Total voters
    18
Josie said:
Your thinking is very strange.
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only to people like you who are ununwilling to listen to the other side of the coin and are full of blind hate
 
Higgins86 said:
only to people like you who are ununwilling to listen to the other side of the coin and are full of blind hate
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LOL! Okaaaaaay.....
 
Harshaw said:
I don't think anyone objects to Obama because he couldn't/can't get elected.
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im not saying that I was curious to see if him getting re-elected would change anyones opinion on him. For me personally my opinion of Tony Blair changed after he got re-elected, the very fact a majority of my countrymen were willing to keep him in office made me more accepting of him and more willing to give a chance to change my mind.
 
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But you WERE saying that . . .

Oh, well. Nothing to get into a sticky wicket about.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Exactly. And if he did get re-elected, I fail to see how that would garner respect from his critics in any case.
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Because like I said a majority of their countrymen have deemed him good enough to have another 4 years being their president
 
RadicalModerate said:
Obama will be reelected. Mitt Romney will not be President; this is Republican's "John Kerry" year. I'm lukewarm on Obama; he's done some things I've liked, a lot of things I haven't liked. But he will most likely be a two-term President (barring something huge, like a terrorist attack or the SCOTUS striking down health care reform) and I'm at least interested to see where he goes from here, and to what lengths the GOP will go to be obstructionist.

I'm expecting the economy to pick up somewhat in the next year or two and with the Iraq war done, Obama will be in a more beneficial position to really do some Obama stuff.
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I couldnt agree more. I think Obama's got the upper hand, which is a good thing considering he can start doing the things he planned on doing in his first term.
And about the poll, I personally will be more, I suppose "proud" or "enlightened". But him winning a second term wont neccesarily change my opinion about his policies.
 
Higgins86 said:
The very fact he was re-elected should change how everyone would view him! He has been painted as a one term president by the GOP and someone that the American people no longer support. If he was to defeat the GOP and get another 4 years that would suggest to me that the man is not as weak as the GOP have suggested and deserves some respect for being your president.
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Much in the same way that the Left in America came to love and accept G.W. Bush when he won re-election, right? They all respected him for being our president because he got another 4 years. Right.
 
Higgins86 said:
Because like I said a majority of their countrymen have deemed him good enough to have another 4 years being their president
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That's so cute and innocent of you. :p
 
Sensibility said:
Much in the same way that the Left in America came to love and accept G.W. Bush when he won re-election, right? They all respected him for being our president because he got another 4 years. Right.
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They were wrong as well, what I have got from this thread is that American politics is more polarized than I thought it was.
 
MaddieGreenwell said:
I couldnt agree more. I think Obama's got the upper hand, which is a good thing considering he can start doing the things he planned on doing in his first term.
And about the poll, I personally will be more, I suppose "proud" or "enlightened". But him winning a second term wont neccesarily change my opinion about his policies.
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Welcome to the forum, btw.
 
Higgins86 said:
Because like I said a majority of their countrymen have deemed him good enough to have another 4 years being their president
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haha...Welcome to America, Higs.

And FWIW, if Obama wins the general election it doesn't necessarily mean that a majority of Americans would have voted for him. In fact, it's more likely that that's not the case, since turnout for Presidential elections is generally around 50% of the eligible electorate, if I'm not mistaken.
 
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StillBallin75 said:
haha...Welcome to America, Higs.

And FWIW, if Obama wins the general election it doesn't necessarily mean that a majority of Americans would have voted for him. In fact, it's more likely that that's not the case, since turnout for Presidential elections is generally around 50% of the eligible electorate, if I'm not mistaken.
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yeh I guess thats true as well
 
A second Obama term would not tell us anything significant about him that his first term didn't already tell us.

It would, however, tell us something very unfavorable about the voting public.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
A second Obama term would not tell us anything significant about him that his first term didn't already tell us.

It would, however, tell us something very unfavorable about the voting public.
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I can agree with this to an extent. An Obama 2nd-term victory wouldn't tell us anything about Obama that we don't already know. It would, however, give some insight into what the voting public thinks.
 
MaddieGreenwell said:
I couldnt agree more. I think Obama's got the upper hand, which is a good thing considering he can start doing the things he planned on doing in his first term.
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Well, he had about as much hand as anyone could have when he came into his first term, so what happened to the plans?

Questions like that help to illustrate why opinion of him isn't going to change if he happens to get re-elected. It's about what he's done so far, not about how well his campaign goes.
 
I will generally give the winner the benefit of the doubt to see what will happen the next go around. That being said, I expect the distance between myself and the Democratic party's base and the President of the United States to continue to grow.
 
StillBallin75 said:
I can agree with this to an extent. An Obama 2nd-term victory wouldn't tell us anything about Obama that we don't already know. It would, however, give some insight into what the voting public thinks.
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It pretty much means that half the country is okay with the job he's been doing so far, which means we're getting the government we deserve, or the GOP candidate really is just that much worse, which still means we're getting the government we deserve.
 
Those are poor choices. If he gets a second term, I'll be looking for Obama to be more bold in pursuing solutions that will help right our country.
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
It pretty much means that half the country is okay with the job he's been doing so far, which means we're getting the government we deserve, or the GOP candidate really is just that much worse, which still means we're getting the government we deserve.
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I'm always a bit wary of "we get the government we deserve" rhetoric. It's my personal belief that many of our current political problems stem from our flawed electoral system - not Americans' voting patterns per se.
 
StillBallin75 said:
I'm always a bit wary of "we get the government we deserve" rhetoric. It's my personal belief that many of our current political problems stem from our flawed electoral system - not Americans' voting patterns per se.
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The voting public has the ability to inform itself and institute change regardless of any amount of money, etc., which is injected into the system.

If they don't, it's not the "system's" fault.
 
Gina said:
Those are poor choices. If he gets a second term, I'll be looking for Obama to be more bold in pursuing solutions that will help right our country.
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You mean, like the “solutions” that he pursued early in his term, that wrecked our economy much worse than it already was? More of that crap, in the hope that this time, it will “right our country”?

What's that cliché about the definition of insanity?
 
Harshaw said:
The voting public has the ability to inform itself and institute change regardless of any amount of money, etc., which is injected into the system.

If they don't, it's not the "system's" fault.
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Sure, it has the "ability," but the odds are stacked against any systematic change either way. If one views the current system as flawed, you can blame the public for not getting off their asses and doing something about it, but it's not their fault that the flawed system exists and will likely continue to exist.
 
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