View Poll Results: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

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  • Start a National Petition to repeal the act

    21 23.60%
  • Move out the Country

    3 3.37%
  • Celebrate

    5 5.62%
  • Go on with my life and comply with the new law

    19 21.35%
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    IMO

    things would get really ugly.

    Dont know exactly what I would it would depend on what other were doing.

    I personally would DEFINITELY keep my guns and continue to carry in the limited ways I do.

    If people were getting violent then I would just make sure my family is safe first and Id go from there.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    The simple truth of the matter is, any government official who actively participated in an attempt to delete any of the unalienable freedoms from the Bill Of Rights should and hopefully would be considered a criminal and subject to immediate arrest and prosecution for violating a sacred oath which they voluntarily swore to upon a bible.

    I, (Jane/Joe Potus), solemnly swear to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic, so help me God.

    If the government refused to act then it could justifiably be labeled a rogue government, it's powers nullified and voided and the highest ranking government or military representative should step in, take charge of the military and seize control, pending new elections and transfer of power__Whoever stepped in would forever be known as a national hero.

    No reason should ever be considered valid for striking down the 2nd Amendment nor any other right, even if it is justified by a presidential declaration of Martial Law, which is most likely how gun confiscation would come about.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    For me, I would join the revolution if our government were stupid enough to ban our gun rights.

    If I were against gun rights, I would not, with the mere flick of my hand, ban gun rights without even time for discussion.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    I try any legal means available to me to get the ban repealed, but that would be the end of it. I don't care enough about the matter to rebel against the government over it.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Wake up, take a ****, brush my teeth, take a shower, let the dog out, grab some breakfast, go to work, do some work, go to lunch, eat my lunch, maybe take another **** after lunch if I had too much dairy, go back to work, finish work, leave work, go pick up my son at daycare, come hoe, let the dog out, feed my son, change his diaper, make dinner, eat dinner, put my son to bed, watch some TV, maybe take one final **** and go to bed.
    Good response.
    Evidently, sir, you do not live in fear.
    Nor do I.
    But we still must have gun restrictions.
    "Unconstitutional " or not.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Good response.
    Evidently, sir, you do not live in fear.
    Nor do I.
    But we still must have gun restrictions.
    "Unconstitutional " or not.
    I'm not in favor of gun restrictions really since they don't appear to achieve the goal they wish to achieve (at least they haven't here in Chicago, by any stretch. It's easier for me to get a handgun in illegally in Chicago than it is for me to get one legally in the burbs, since I don't have a current FOID card).

    That being said, if there was a federal ban tomorrow, I'd simply go about my day as normal. I'd disagree with the ban, but I certainly wouldn't go nuts over it.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    The odds of this happening anytime within the 21st century are only slightly better than me learning how to fly to Brazil by flapping my arms.

    But if it did, I would not sit still for it. To me the right to arms and to self-protection are as fundamental as freedom of speech and of religion, and act as a check on those who would infringe on my rights. I would not accept such an act at all.... and that's as much detail as I'm going into about it.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    I'd take out a multi-million dollar life insurance policy on every politician or judge who created such a thing

    I'd be worth several billion within 5 months

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Back in the founders' day the right to bear arms played a critical role in counterbalancing the threat to liberty that the government could potentially pose. It was like a safe catch. If all else failed to prevent the rise of some kind of totalitarian regime, if a lot of people had guns, they could put the regime down with force. At that time, it really was a serious right and a meaningful check on totalitarianism.

    But that isn't the case anymore. In order for the general population to be able to serve as an effective counter to the US military the general population would need to have destructive capabilities far, far, beyond anything society could survive. Nuclear weapons, stealth bombers, spy satellites, bioweapons... Stuff we can't possibly let people have. Look at Iraq. Tons of people with years of military or even terrorist experience, equipped with military weaponry and explosives... Surface to air missles, land mines, even chemical weapons... And still they don't pose a serious threat to our military. American civilians with shotguns wouldn't be 10% of the threat that the insurgents in Iraq are. So, the right to bear arms has lost it's role as the last defender of liberty.

    The real check now in that regard is that the military may choose not to comply with the orders of a totalitarian regime. But that's what would determine the outcome- how much of the military resisted and how much military hardware they were able to secure- not civilians with 22s.

    So, what we're left with is just a policy analysis- do guns provide more benefit than harm. I tend to think that they provide marginally more benefit than harm. They're useful tools if you live somewhere rural. In some situations they provide more defensive benefit than the risk of accidents they carry. But that isn't like a real "rights" type issue to me. In my view it's just a policy issue at this point. Actually, I think it would probably be more appropriate for it to be handled like other policy issues by the legislature rather than a constitutional right, but I don't really care either way. So I would not join a violent revolt or whatever.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Back in the founders' day the right to bear arms played a critical role in counterbalancing the threat to liberty that the government could potentially pose. It was like a safe catch. If all else failed to prevent the rise of some kind of totalitarian regime, if a lot of people had guns, they could put the regime down with force. At that time, it really was a serious right and a meaningful check on totalitarianism.

    But that isn't the case anymore. In order for the general population to be able to serve as an effective counter to the US military the general population would need to have destructive capabilities far, far, beyond anything society could survive. Nuclear weapons, stealth bombers, spy satellites, bioweapons... Stuff we can't possibly let people have. Look at Iraq. Tons of people with years of military or even terrorist experience, equipped with military weaponry and explosives... Surface to air missles, land mines, even chemical weapons... And still they don't pose a serious threat to our military. American civilians with shotguns wouldn't be 10% of the threat that the insurgents in Iraq are. So, the right to bear arms has lost it's role as the last defender of liberty.
    Couple of things. 1) The military wouldn't be the target necessarily, this comes up constantly on the forum. If people were that PO'd you would probably see politicians having to go into hiding, many lawyers, some activist groups, and most probably beauracrats(sp?). The military in our country are considered our countrymen, and politicians have no guarantee that the military would side with them because they have friends, family, and a sworn oath to uphold the constitution.(I'm not chest thumping BTW as this is a hypothetical)

    2) Politicians couldn't just launch a nuke at will, they would be endangering their friends and family, there isn't enough "safe harbor" space available for all of them, so that's off the table during a civilian revolt, tanks, planes, stealth gear are on the table.....but then there is the problem of destroying infrastructure that must be replaced within American borders(not as easy to do when going against your own citizens)

    The real check now in that regard is that the military may choose not to comply with the orders of a totalitarian regime. But that's what would determine the outcome- how much of the military resisted and how much military hardware they were able to secure- not civilians with 22s.
    I got a little ahead with the military example, but you have covered it to a point. Civilians aren't going to be bringing "just" shotguns and .22s, more like long range hunting rifles bored +.306, you don't need automatics if the military isn't the target. (again, a hypothetical) Politicians also do keep in mind that there is only x amount of all resources to protect their sorry asses should they test the water of involuntary citizen disarmament.
    So, what we're left with is just a policy analysis- do guns provide more benefit than harm. I tend to think that they provide marginally more benefit than harm. They're useful tools if you live somewhere rural.
    They are useful tools in any defensive situation, location is irrelevant.
    In some situations they provide more defensive benefit than the risk of accidents they carry.
    Guns do NOT cause accidents, negligence does.
    But that isn't like a real "rights" type issue to me. In my view it's just a policy issue at this point. Actually, I think it would probably be more appropriate for it to be handled like other policy issues by the legislature rather than a constitutional right, but I don't really care either way. So I would not join a violent revolt or whatever.
    Rights and policy are not compatible, constitutional law was designed to trump policy(which is a temporary statutory situation).
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