View Poll Results: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

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Thread: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So in those places that you mentioned in the USA, there were complete and full bans on private gun ownership?
    Not full and complete bans on ownership. Though there have been attempts to do so in some of those locations. There ARE some municipalities in the Communistwealth of Massachusetts that have de facto bans on all gun ownership inside the town boundaries. Springfield and Boston being among them. This is accomplished by the allowance of the local police chief setting the rules on who is allowed a permit; and then the hiring of a police chief who simply won't issue permits. Worcester is very close to the same way. Shrewsbury was that way until about four or five years ago.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Not full and complete bans on ownership. Though there have been attempts to do so in some of those locations. There ARE some municipalities in the Communistwealth of Massachusetts that have de facto bans on all gun ownership inside the town boundaries. Springfield and Boston being among them. This is accomplished by the allowance of the local police chief setting the rules on who is allowed a permit; and then the hiring of a police chief who simply won't issue permits. Worcester is very close to the same way. Shrewsbury was that way until about four or five years ago.
    As I thought. None of these efforts you hold up as a worst case scenario were in fact a worst case scenario.

    So in places like Boston - no private citizen is permitted to have a firearm? Is that what you are contending?
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    I'd buy all the ammunition I could get today because there's gonna be a really profitable black market tomorrow. That'd be capitalism. Always pay taxes on your profits.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And I completely and utterly disagree. We are not talking about a right that was invented by a court - abortion rights let us say - we are talking about the Second Amendment and the Right to Bear Arms. The only way to bring in a total and complete ban on private gun ownership in the USA would be to repeal the Second Amendment with a new constitutional amendment. And I cannot envision the type of political environment that would need to be created to make that possible.
    Please explain why, if the USA SC ruled that the SA only applied to well regulated militas, the government could not go about banning private gun ownership.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Please explain why, if the USA SC ruled that the SA only applied to well regulated militas, the government could not go about banning private gun ownership.

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    The American people would not stand for it..... or I should say a segment of the American people would not stand for it. Why could then a state government declare that every able bodied citizen adult was a member of the militia? I strongly suspect that such a thing would happen and happen very very quickly.

    Is this site an accurate site for information?

    http://www.enotes.com/civil-rights-r...e/firearm-laws
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Everyone always speaks big on this issue but they have been restricting it when they have no authority to do so for decades and which one of them did anything about it? A big fat none. I can't just say I will revolt because no one will ****ing join me! It will be a party of one getting shot in the street. and why is this ?
    What is this "no authority" business ?
    In truth, a majority of our people do want restrictions on guns and gun ownership..
    And as long as we have a "democracy" (more or less), the controls/rules/regulations/restrictions will remain.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Everyone always speaks big on this issue but they have been restricting it when they have no authority to do so for decades and which one of them did anything about it? A big fat none. I can't just say I will revolt because no one will ****ing join me! It will be a party of one getting shot in the street.
    Don't flatter yourself, Henrin. There will be a civil war in this country, and it'll probably be a response to something like a ban on the second amendment. When we get to that point, Barack Obama, or someone like him, will be turning the Oval Office into his throne room.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The American people would not stand for it..... or I should say a segment of the American people would not stand for it. Why could then a state government declare that every able bodied citizen adult was a member of the militia? I strongly suspect that such a thing would happen and happen very very quickly.

    Is this site an accurate site for information?

    Firearm Laws (Encyclopedia of Everyday Law) - eNotes.com
    Damn you are obtuse. I have said several times I am not suggesting it could happen in the current enviornment, just that banning guns would not require repealing the SA. Since you seem to be incapabile of understanding this concept, I will leave you to play with yourself.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    Personally if this happened I wouldn't consider it America anymore, so I'd probably go with violent revolution.
    Agreed.

    No need to ban the 2nd amendment. Just stop reading it through a keyhole.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have already explained to you the process of overriding a portion of the Constitution like the current Second Amendment. 2/3 of both houses of Congress then the ratification by 3/4 of the individual state legislatures.
    As TOJ pointed out, there really is no need to officially amend the constitution in order to gut the 2nd amendment. All that has to happen is for congress to pass a law infringing on the right to keep and bear arms, the president to sign it, and the supreme court to rule that the law is constitutional. Under our system, it is the supreme court, and the supreme court alone, that decides whether a law is constitutional.

    So while the 2nd amendment remains on the books, only the supreme court determines whether and to what level the 2nd amendment protects our right to keep and bear arms.

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