View Poll Results: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

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  • Start a National Petition to repeal the act

    21 23.60%
  • Move out the Country

    3 3.37%
  • Celebrate

    5 5.62%
  • Go on with my life and comply with the new law

    19 21.35%
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    If they repeal the 2nd, what would stop them from repealing the 1st, 4th or 5th?
    Realistically speaking, even with the second in place, we the people would never be able to outgun the government.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Did the Britons pay people for their firearms when they enacted a ban?
    No, which is why I'd demand it before turning them over or fight them in court for the value. I'm guessing that any real attempt would grandfather in existing legal guns rather than pay for them or anger all the gun owners even more than they already would be... IIRC that's what the UK did. You can still own some guns in the UK, with the right permits, etc.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Realistically speaking, even with the second in place, we the people would never be able to outgun the government.
    You assume the military would back such a move?
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You assume the military would back such a move?
    Wouldn't military backing be necessary to repeal the second to begin with?
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azaraith View Post
    No, which is why I'd demand it before turning them over or fight them in court for the value. I'm guessing that any real attempt would grandfather in existing legal guns rather than pay for them or anger all the gun owners even more than they already would be... IIRC that's what the UK did. You can still own some guns in the UK, with the right permits, etc.
    For what it's worth, if politcians had the nerve to go after the second the first base they would cover is the courts. I am pretty sure if they did actually try to repeal the second they would make sure you didn't have a chance of ever seeing legal recourse to recover your losses.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Wouldn't military backing be necessary to repeal the second to begin with?
    Turtledude pointed this out in the past, in a domestic political meltdown it isn't necessarily the military that would have to be engaged. The politicians would be the probable targets, there simply aren't enough resources to protect all of them.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azaraith View Post
    No, which is why I'd demand it before turning them over or fight them in court for the value. I'm guessing that any real attempt would grandfather in existing legal guns rather than pay for them or anger all the gun owners even more than they already would be... IIRC that's what the UK did. You can still own some guns in the UK, with the right permits, etc.

    You think the US government is going to pay for 270 million civilian owned firearms if they did a ban on the 2nd amendment? If the government banned guns that means they are illegal product.Last I checked the feds don't reimburse pot growers and drug dealers whose crops were burned and property seized. The UK has been working on their firearms ban for decades to whittle down the gun owners and I do not think there were 270 million civilian owned firearms in the UK.

    U.S. most armed country with 90 guns per 100 people | Reuters
    U.S. citizens own 270 million of the world's 875 million known firearms, according to the Small Arms Survey 2007 by the Geneva-based Graduate Institute of International Studies.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Turtledude pointed this out in the past, in a domestic political meltdown it isn't necessarily the military that would have to be engaged. The politicians would be the probable targets, there simply aren't enough resources to protect all of them.
    Thus, military backing would be necessary in order to repeal the second. With full military support, It's not unreasonable to assume that 600 or so people could be protected from threats.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    if American banned the 2nd Amendment, that would mean the will of the people called for this to take place, and I would respect the will of the people.

    its very...very difficult to change or add to our Constitution, but when it does happen we should respect it.

    and no, we should not immediately resort to violence to address our political grievances. that is the resort of thugs & criminals.

    if a democratic process to deal with differences exist, that is the way to go. violence is the last resort in such a system. you don't protect democracy...by destroying it.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Thus, military backing would be necessary in order to repeal the second. With full military support, It's not unreasonable to assume that 600 or so people could be protected from threats.
    I agree with your first point completely, politicians would never risk a complete American disarmament without heavy backup. On the second point, while there may be 600 elected officials there are other targets in line as well. Even with the best technology people still find ways to get through the cracks and take opportunity shots at politicians, this is with a relatively sane populace that will not engage violence without a good reason. If, and of course this is a big if enough people felt that their last recourse was an armed attack the statistical probability of security breaches goes up incrementally. It's basically mid-level math which states the number of armed citizens with a signifigant percentage willing to engage severely stresses resources.

    Obviously no one wants that but the logic and probability seems to fall with the populace.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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